Trump launches trade war against Canada with a 25% tariff on most goods

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O weird... Across every platform, I kept reading this would never happen and was JUST A DISTRACTION from some other terrible thing - or if it did happen it'd be our fault for paying attention in the first place (and Daddy drinks because you cry) - and here we are AGAIN. Murka doing exactly what they threatened to do.

Looking forward to Trudeau's response at 6. And the fuck Trudeau brigade can get bent.

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It's not just oil by any means. Timber, metals, all sorts of food staples...

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I'm looking forward to not being able to afford to live anymore soon. It currently costs me $20 a day to go to work. Just the .75 cents on gas would cost me $120 a month extra right now. Food costs are already outrageous. Certainly going to need a lot more ramen. I have chickens for eggs, but I should figure out some good ways to can/preserve vegatables this season for next winter. I can't just throw everything in the freezer, not enough room.

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As an American. We don’t care

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This is about fentanyl in the same way your last election was about eggs.

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Canada (as a federal unit) has pretty desperately been trying to allow itself to trade oil on the global stage, but the infrastructure to allow that just isn't there. To get meaningful quantities to Canadian ports required pipelines through to the west coast, and that was politically unpalatable to the people living there.

Really sucks that Canada just plainly didn't build the infrastructure to expand to global markets. Most intercontinental trade of Canadian petroleum is via Florida. It'd be great if Canada could flood the European and Asian markets to kneecap Russias war machine funding. But the infrastructure isn't there.

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Getting a lot of use out of this one lately.

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As a metaphysical reference, fuck this guy.

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All AB has ever wanted is scaled access to global markets. Canada gets hosed on oil prices because the US is the only meaningful importer and they know we can't move it to other markets. They'll always be in the prime negotiation position as long as they're the only material customer.

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Maple syrup

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that metaphor assumes that these tariffs are going to hurt america more than it hurts canada...

i'm pretty sure we're the foot in your analogy. we're getting fucked

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Grow a spine.

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No he already threw you off the cliff on the way there

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"take him to Disneyland"?

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And BC's 2 biggest issues with allowing a pipeline (depending on whether you're talking to the province or the people) are that we'd be taking the risk of shipping crude oil through our islands and remote coastlines, and that we wouldn't really see any local benefits. Building refineries, whether in Alberta, BC, or otherwise, would alleviate our reliance on the US, lower prices (or at least isolate us from major fluctuations from the exchange rate), and make the product less toxic (figuratively and literally) to those opposed to pipelines.

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grow a pair of abnormally large eyeballs

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His action, intended to pressure Canada to curb fentanyl flows,

During the pandemic, when we (Canada) closed the borders, we saw an increase in fentanyl-related deaths.

Rather than being caused by mental wellbeing issues, it was believed to be caused by poorer drug supply (more impurities).

So if closing the border made our drugs worse-quality, isn't the US the problem?

This is like the US closing the border because they're worried about all the illegal guns crossing into the US from Canada...

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I'm also a dual citizen, and as soon as people find that out, all they want to talk about is "your president", as if I voted for the motherfucker. I've lived in Canada for 16 years and will never go back to that shithole, and everybody wants me to take responsibility for what D-bag does. I didn't vote for him, I don't live in the US, and all they want to do is yell at me every time he does something idiotic (which is of course every single day). Needless to say I stopped telling people where I'm from. I've gotten really good at the Canadian accent, I sound like I was born & raised on the Prairies. Nobody could pick me out... except for the fact that I don't have a German surname and I'm not Mennonite

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at some point they're gonna want our water, and it'll be much easier if we're a US territory when they finally make the decision to take it

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I think you're missing the sheer scale of production capacity, and severely underestimateing how it actually makes the primary issue (logistics) so much worse. Refinement turns the raw inputs into MANY output products, and you can't mix them, so suddenly you have the same volume of products, but suddenly you need even more complex logistical frameworks to move them. The suggestion of putting refineries in AB when we're already bottlenecked is the industrial equivalent of hiring a pro athlete to teach a newborn infant to run. There isn't a conspiracy as to why refineries are all geographically positioned for maximal logistical efficiency: they're extremely sensitive to logistics.

If we were going to put a refinery anywhere, it should be in BC. If they're more comfortable putting other refined petroleum products on ships, sweet. The construction is big money infused into the economy, so is the operation. So is the increased shipping activity.

Like, Canada is one country, and now more than ever it HAS to be operating at the national level of economic interests. Canada HAS to integrate it's energy with the rest of the world.

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Trump launches trade war against Canada with a 25% tariff on most goods