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'Admit you're Hamas or we'll send a drone to kill your family'

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  • M [email protected]

    They can't really leave the nazi table if there isn't a Nazi table any more than you can't leave the table of Maoist. Ukraine is a great example with Azov. Are Ukrainians fighting for their country Nazis because of the Azov brigade?

    How do you parse the logic? It seems problematic to decide that a vast majority of a population are something based off a minority within it.

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    if there's no actual Nazi table

    So you're blind or stupid? If you think the Nazi table doesn't exist, let alone isn't literally in charge right now then it's one or the other

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      That's some really fucked up thinking, on par with invading forces. You're essentially advocating for a genocide, including the masses of people in Israel who are constantly protesting against this war

      Even I, a person who lives in East Europe, who has been affected by Russiay entire life, with Ukraine invasion to top it off, do not wish harm upon every single russian.

      If you start thinking like them, then what makes you morally better?

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      He said Israel, not israelians. but it would either be another diaspora or their neighbors will take revenge and continue the cycle of hatred.

      Which might be one of the objectives as well. "You can't let our people in the hands of the arabs, they are gonna kill us all in revenge for us killing them!". Ensure the israeli state exists because without it, their people die.

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      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comG [email protected]

        while said country does, in fact, exist

        Irrelevant in whether or not it has the right to do so

        straight up genocidal ground

        Don't be an idiot, it's nowhere near the same thing

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        If that’s what you think, extend the thought experiment. Say you get what you want, Israel stops existing tomorrow. What happens to everyone there?

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          If that’s what you think, extend the thought experiment. Say you get what you want, Israel stops existing tomorrow. What happens to everyone there?

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          Say you get what you want, Israel stops existing tomorrow

          Easy: that's not what I want

          What happens to everyone there?

          A different government rules over them

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            It didn't cease to exist nor were its people required to sonehow all flee to France

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            That’s not what I asked I asked what happened, not what didn’t happen.

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              it's famous for shit libs who do not want to actually fix anything half assing solutions and those half assed solutions not working because one of the parties is a bad actor, who will only accept extermination.

              and that is the solution. every zio needs to die. their children need to die. their pets need to die. that is the solution. that is how you open the possibility of peace.

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              The children need to be reeducated as I will not cross that line (which makes me morally superior to every Zionist) but otherwise I agree.

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                The children need to be reeducated as I will not cross that line (which makes me morally superior to every Zionist) but otherwise I agree.

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                nah. they need to be killed as an example to anyone else who would do this.

                I could settle for THOROUGH re-education, but they would need to be watched close, and if one goes even a little fasch, it needs to be popped. no questions, no equivocations.

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                  On the contrary, associating with the Nazi party that is actively disappearing innocent people off the street is turning your back on liberty and justice.

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                  I never claimed the feds weren't Nazis. We're talking about pedophilia.

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                    it's famous for shit libs who do not want to actually fix anything half assing solutions and those half assed solutions not working because one of the parties is a bad actor, who will only accept extermination.

                    and that is the solution. every zio needs to die. their children need to die. their pets need to die. that is the solution. that is how you open the possibility of peace.

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                    Genocide is not the answer. Assuming "zionist" includes "any jew living in Israel," I hope for humanity's sake that you are trolling.

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                      Genocide is not the answer. Assuming "zionist" includes "any jew living in Israel," I hope for humanity's sake that you are trolling.

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                      anyone with zio citizenship. jewish or no. plus ideological christian zios-there are lots of those here; it's an apocalypse cult thing.

                      killing them is the only way this stops. killing them until there are no more of them. until they are not remembered in detail. crushing them out of history.

                      that's the way you stop the killing. nothing else will work. while a zio lives, it will kill innocents.

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                      • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                        This is yet another one of many examples that affirms the correct answer to "does israel have a right to exist?" is no. No nation has an inherent right to exist, but certainly a nation as horrible as israel should not exist for many reasons, including morally, just like how nazi germany has no right to exist.

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                        For everyone wondering if this means genocide against Israel -- no! Of course not! This means the nation -- that is, the government, the borders, etc. -- needs to be reformed.

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                          He said Israel, not israelians. but it would either be another diaspora or their neighbors will take revenge and continue the cycle of hatred.

                          Which might be one of the objectives as well. "You can't let our people in the hands of the arabs, they are gonna kill us all in revenge for us killing them!". Ensure the israeli state exists because without it, their people die.

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                          So by your logic, due to how much problems the US is causing to it's neighbours and in the world right now, it is morally acceptable to destroy USA and make Americans look for new homes?

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                            So by your logic, due to how much problems the US is causing to it's neighbours and in the world right now, it is morally acceptable to destroy USA and make Americans look for new homes?

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                            If we were in the 18th century, for sure. for a country more than 200 years old? No.
                            Israel is not even a century old. There are barely 3 generations there.

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                              If we were in the 18th century, for sure. for a country more than 200 years old? No.
                              Israel is not even a century old. There are barely 3 generations there.

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                              Decleration of independence does not equal people suddenly appearing there on that date. 3 generations? What? You clearly missed your history lessons. The Jewish people have been living there for more than 5000 years. The Land of Israel, being under different names under different world powers, has existed for so long even the bible revolves around it. You can start by searching for "12 tribes of Israel"

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