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  • pfr@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]

    It has to start with someone. I made my entire family switch to signal by boycotting WhatsApp. I just said, of you want to contact me your can either SMS, email or install signal. It was surprisingly easy. For non family members, I tell people to switch all the time. Most of my contacts now use signal. It was worth the trouble.

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    Don't get me wrong, I tried the switch, multiple times.

    Where I live the vast majority uses pre-paid plans that give internet bandwidth, some calls but hardly no SMS, so that's not an alternative, unless in an emergency or you want to contact someone unilaterally.

    If I want someone to use it, they will have to convince their other circles to do the same, which statically decreases the chances of switching, and you get things like: "but we're already taking fine on Whats(whatsapp)", "it's too much trouble to have another app just for you", "I don't care who's behind the app, its works fine.

    To add salt to injury, many places (like stores, restaurants, salons, etc), have WhatsApp as the main communication method, some companies will even have the option to update you on things like delivery or banking solutions via WhatsApp.

    It's something so ingrained in our culture at this point that is super hard to change.

    I'm not looking for solutions here, just stating a sad state of affairs, I like privacy but it's not always an option living in society.

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    • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

      The app is not really that great yet. I suggest to check this page out for content creators on PeerTube: https://peertube.wtf/home and also this list: https://lemmy.wtf/post/15810205

      If you are also looking for a PeerTube server to register on, I suggest you look here: https://lemmy.wtf/post/15816115

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      Oh, you’re the guy! Thanks for hosting it for absolutely free! I got my son’s band videos out to their fanbase and loved ones because of your work.

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        I’ve never heard of Orkut, the only Google social network I ever used was Google+. When I first heard about Facebook I couldn’t even sign up because my college wasn’t a supported .edu…lol and I guess the Facebook format/design isn’t inherently bad, just the algorithm is horrendous. There are more adds and post from suggested groups than people and groups I follow on my feed. Then the post from Threads a social network I don’t even use forced on me and adds in the notifications. It’s just a garbage experience and way of going about things. Although it’s still hard to see the point of an alternative that the people I know IRL aren’t on when I have Mastodon, BlueSky and Lemmy for like minded people.

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        The point is that you can invite the people in your life to try it out. Just like Facebook in the early days. Except it doesn’t have the hostile UX of Facebook.

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          Why didn't I hear about this until the day of?

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            Oh, you’re the guy! Thanks for hosting it for absolutely free! I got my son’s band videos out to their fanbase and loved ones because of your work.

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            Is it the band The Contradictions?

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              The point is that you can invite the people in your life to try it out. Just like Facebook in the early days. Except it doesn’t have the hostile UX of Facebook.

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              Good point, thats the correct way to look at it.

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              • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

                Is it the band The Contradictions?

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                Yes! Internet fame achieved!!

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                  matrix too has contact discovery, if you add your phone number (or email). most users don't, and that tells me something

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                  they don't have it on the new app yet, and it's not super intuitive to begin with compared to signal or whatsapp

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                    [Signal] has contact discovery so it owns matrix and xmpp when compared to whatsapp

                    Can you please elaborate? Idk what this means

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                    matrix and xmpp just don't have the intuitive onboarding that signal has when coming from whatsapp

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                      And Signal isn’t?!

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                      Signal is centralised.

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                        Bluesky is just Twitter but with a different techbro in charge

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                        techgal*

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                          Signal is centralised.

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                          You now understood both my point and the OC’s, I hope.

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                          • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                            What does this mean?

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                            the new cryptographic protocol protects metadata, like signal. the servers know nothing about any encrypted chats

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                              Yes! Internet fame achieved!!

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                              Haha awesome. Thanks for sharing your videos 😁

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                                Mastodon ❌

                                Bluesky ✅

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                                Kinda feels like bluesky is already going to hell in a handbasket, so maybe not.

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                                  They are treated like letters because they arent instant, like letters. Hell, some emails could take full minutes to send.

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                                  Only time I have the problem is when people attach large files. While is the same problem with other "IM" methods.

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                                    Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It really looks like they managed to make an ID less chat as simple as possible. But the undeniable benefit of using one’s phone as ID is that when people switch, their contacts are already there. I think that friction alone will prevent normies from adopting it.

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                                    You're welcome 🙂 (btw, nice username)

                                    Yeah they've tried to make it as similar as whatsapp. But it's hard convincing your entire family to switch again after signal just because you found a cool new app to switch to, lol

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                                      Are any of these actually good?

                                      I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

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                                      While not part of the fediverse if you want Twitter like activity I would suggest BlueSky. However I am also on Mastodon and I find it to have plenty of activity. It’s not the fire hose that Twitter is but to me that makes it much more manageable.

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                                      • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                                        SimpleX is cool, but fails the "my grandmother can use it" requirement. Signal has the huge benefit that is just as easy as WhatsApp. With Simplex you have to invite each of your friends individually.

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                                        Scan a QR isn't difficult, there are also tantum links

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                                          Mastodon ❌

                                          Bluesky ✅

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                                          People moving from Xitter to Bluesky don’t understand why they moved. They have no clue.

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