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  • J [email protected]

    Is Threema still a good option? Anyone know?

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    #425

    I use threema with family but getting others to use yet another app (especially for thin social connections) is difficult.

    Depends on your threat model though, I guess.

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    • leate_wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

      The fact that you or anyone thinks that matters is part of the problem. Not every federated site needs to be federated with every other federated site. That's half the point of federation.

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      The post says "fediverse" which by its very name implies they are all interconnected.

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      • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

        With Signal you just have to install the App and make an account to start chatting with your friends and family. SimpleX requires me to send a link or QR code to everybody I want to interact with. You will have a hard time convincing anyone to do that. Compare that to the first Twitter exodus, people chose Bluesky over Mastodon because picking a server was 'difficult'. The average person doesn't care about technology at all and will always pick the path of least resistance.

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        It require literally a minute, also creating an account isn't a thing people like to do.

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          SMS is so ass, I can’t even.

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          #428

          Then it's official. SMS is so ass, one cannot even.

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            PeerTube appears to be completely devoid of content

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            • S [email protected]

              Based on what? It’s not like you can immediately notice if your data is being stolen.

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              Based on the interaction with the app. The features are extensive. There's no ads. My data has most likely been leaked by American companies anyways, so what's the big deal?

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              • A [email protected]

                You now understood both my point and the OC’s, I hope.

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                #431

                Signal is not federated.

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                • spaduf@slrpnk.netS [email protected]

                  Folks should also check out neodb.social . it's good reads, letterboxd, and steam reviews all in one.

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                  #432

                  I've been looking for something to track my physical book, music, and game collections. An instance of this might work nicely. Thanks!

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                    This is such a beautiful guide!

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                    • ekzepp@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                      Ah. I see...

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                      I don’t get the joke

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                      • S [email protected]

                        It require literally a minute, also creating an account isn't a thing people like to do.

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                        True which is why WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and Telegram still reign supreme. Don't forget that its a minute for each person I want to contact, why bother if I already have the phone number of everybody I know. SimpleX targets a different market than the previously mentioned Messengers and that's OK but it also means its a no-go for anyone outside that market. Signal on the other hand is targeting the same market and thus is a viable alternative and for that reason I could convince my friends and family including my grandmother to use it instead.

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                        • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                          True which is why WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and Telegram still reign supreme. Don't forget that its a minute for each person I want to contact, why bother if I already have the phone number of everybody I know. SimpleX targets a different market than the previously mentioned Messengers and that's OK but it also means its a no-go for anyone outside that market. Signal on the other hand is targeting the same market and thus is a viable alternative and for that reason I could convince my friends and family including my grandmother to use it instead.

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                          Also creating accounts require a minute or more.

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                            has anyone tried Friendica? is it devoid of people?

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                            • A [email protected]

                              Signal is not federated.

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                              That’s what I said, dimwit.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

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                                Jurisdiction is not that important. Even if it was in Switzerland it'd have to comply with international law enforcement and warrants. The key is that sure Signal is obliged to give out whatever data it has, but the point is that it doesn't have much useful data to give.

                                Oh and btw the same goes for instances of the fediverse (which are ran by volunteers you need to trust), and if they don't comply and the US government really wants to break into them they probably will find a way. Doesn't even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up, do some social engineering, arrest someone or at worst find a bug to exploit, and I can guarantee that unless you have some serious security wizards running your instance you're not beating the FBI there and if the FBI is really persistent and focused on you for some reason then the wizards won't be enough you need state actors.

                                If your threat model actually includes the US government (aka you're actually in danger and not some paranoia or just-in-case situation, be realistic with yourself) and there's credible threats you may be targeted by it or other governments then you're probably going to be using tor, briar, all that jazz, and wouldn't be on lemmy. If you're just some guy who just needs to message your family and shit Signal is perfectly fine, I can tell you that unless you're a serious threat to the government they won't waste resources cracking down ways to capture you via signal or whatever you use, even if you're a minority or activist, if not because you're not important enough then because they have other easier ways to do it.

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Sometimes you’re ashamed of the ugly hacks you cobbled together to reach MVP, and you want to fix the stuff you know you need to fix first before being thrown to the wolves. I can respect that, for a limited time.

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                                  I mean maybe but you could also just say "we did some whacky shit here help us fix" and let the community help you in the effort.

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                                  • const_void@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                    PeerTube appears to be completely devoid of content

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                                    It feels pretty quiet here. At least going by active posts. They're often the same for a while. New is a bit better. Unless it's my expectations that are wrong?

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                                    • X [email protected]

                                      I heard that it was one of the earliest Fediverse projects. It just hadn't surged in popularity like Mastodon and Lemmy had after the Twitter and Reddit exodus.

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                                      #442

                                      Interesting. Is there a client you could recommend for Android?

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Okay my bad let me make another comment saying

                                        "Signal isn't federated"

                                        There happy?

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                                        A little, yeah, oddly enough.

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          has anyone tried Friendica? is it devoid of people?

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                                          The UI is fucking awful and way too complex, so it's difficult to get anything done. I've tried two different instances and found them both to be unusable.

                                          It's a shame because Friendica is way more powerful than most Fediverse platforms -- they leverage way more of ActivityHub's potential. But the UI needs to get sorted out before it's ready for mass adoption.

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