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  • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

    So the guy above the guy avobe me was wrong?

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    sorta, the old clients still have bad cryptography and the new client isn't fully featured yet

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      Let’s say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case?

      Definitely no. Russian government already is aggressively prosecuting dissidents and you can't join Signal there. I don't know whether it's due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation. At least I wasn't able to. I don't see the USA being that far off with all the recent TikTok drama.

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      you can't join Signal there. I don't know whether it's due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation.

      What do you mean? You need a phone number to join Signal in any country.

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      • S [email protected]

        Email is a shitty protocol we should abandon

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        I need to use email to work

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        • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

          So the guy above the guy avobe me was supposedly wrong?

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          Like I said, I don’t know the inner workings of Matrix. But according to the second guy that isn’t you, Matrix has a new tech stack that is zero trust. Now, there are many ways in which that can be true and I don’t know if what Matrix has right now can indeed be considered dissident-level privacy.

          It’s good enough for my threat level (I basically just use it for software support). If I were planning to overthrow a regime, I’d likely go with SimpleX or some other privacy-first messengers.

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            I agree that the Facebook format is fine. The real problem with them is the algorithms. Oh, and all the data harvesting, advertising, and now bots pretending to be real people? I guess everything else about Facebook is terrible except the format!

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            When people say the fediverse is too confusing I think most of the time in the specific it is good and vital feedback (please let us continue to dismantle the ways in which we participate in systems of anti-accessibility without sometimes even being aware) but sometimes I think the viewpoint might have everything backwards in the beginning assumption that this hurdle, fundamentally an issue of education, has any easy, universal, infinitely scalable genuine solution like corporate social networks attempt to convince us exists and is just around the corner.

            Why are we assuming any solution that can be "growth hacked" like a factorio factory is capable of preserving the values that motivated communities to adopt those tools in the first place?

            Like, maybe maybe-not....

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              you can't join Signal there. I don't know whether it's due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation.

              What do you mean? You need a phone number to join Signal in any country.

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              And that's the problem. The whole privacy thing goes out the window because it relies on an insecure and state-controlled method for authentication. What's the use of it if it can be killed off in any country at a whim of its, or USA's government?

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              • const_void@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                PeerTube appears to be completely devoid of content

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                Take a look at the 2 pinned posts in this community: https://lemmy.wtf/c/peertube

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                    When people say the fediverse is too confusing I think most of the time in the specific it is good and vital feedback (please let us continue to dismantle the ways in which we participate in systems of anti-accessibility without sometimes even being aware) but sometimes I think the viewpoint might have everything backwards in the beginning assumption that this hurdle, fundamentally an issue of education, has any easy, universal, infinitely scalable genuine solution like corporate social networks attempt to convince us exists and is just around the corner.

                    Why are we assuming any solution that can be "growth hacked" like a factorio factory is capable of preserving the values that motivated communities to adopt those tools in the first place?

                    Like, maybe maybe-not....

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                    #468

                    You have really good insights about this, and it's a great question. I wish it weren't buried 5 levels deep in this thread, where few people may see it. Maybe you could write it up as a top level post on the Fediverse community?

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                      I need to use email to work

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                      What you need is not always what the world need.

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                        I doubt I can successfully persuade 100+ people to migrate to signal just because of my political crusade.

                        Don't know till you try! And if you're playing the long game, you don't need to convince 100+ people -- the more individuals that join, the easier it will become to convince everyone else to make the switch too.

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                        In this specific case, like my kids soccer or swimming team, I would need to convince 15 childrens parents, so 30 people (or more) to switch.

                        On top of that, the soccer club has more teams, and since soccer practice is scheduled by the club, the club itself would need to switch their ways of working, and that’s where it gets tough.

                        Facebook, for better or for worse, offers a free platform with a built in blog, instant messenger, calendar, reminders, and an easy way to send messages to all relevant people.

                        Signal only solves one or two of those problems, meaning they would have to find alternatives for the rest, and I for one don’t miss the time when everybody used some variant of a shared calendar (ie Google calendar) to schedule, and you’d be subscribe to 10+ calendars with notifications going off left and right.

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                          BlueSky is the transfer from X. Mastodon isn't it bro

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                            Great graphic! The only things I use on this list are reddit and youtube. Trying peertube now. I'm confused about whatsapp and facebook messenger - don't people just use the texting app that comes with their phone?

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                            You can't text abroad for free. I guess texting is fine if you only communicate within the country.

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                            • L [email protected]

                              Great graphic! The only things I use on this list are reddit and youtube. Trying peertube now. I'm confused about whatsapp and facebook messenger - don't people just use the texting app that comes with their phone?

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                              Any chance you're American?

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                              • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

                                Any chance you're American?

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                                Yes but I also don't much GAF about my phone. I only use it for calls and texting and as a camera. Can't enjoy games or videos on such a small device, let alone writing code, so I mostly ignore it.

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                                  Yes but I also don't much GAF about my phone. I only use it for calls and texting and as a camera. Can't enjoy games or videos on such a small device, let alone writing code, so I mostly ignore it.

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                                  Well, not what I was pointing at. It's pretty much an American thing to just use the preinstalled messaging app and pretend there are no others, that's why the whole blue bubble / green bubble drama is pretty much exclusive to the US.

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                                    Pretty sure you don't pay (aka they are included) for SMS in most (and everywhere within) Europe (except Switzerland ofc...).

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                                    Yeah, that's why I asked if they're from the global south. Because most of the world do have to pay for SMS.

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                                      BlueSky is the transfer from X. Mastodon isn't it bro

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                                      Why do you think so?

                                      So far I'm getting much more interaction on Mastodon than Bluesky

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                                        Does it have categorization like eBay?

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                                        sorry, I don't know what that's like, and also haven't used this

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                                        • breadcat@sh.itjust.worksB [email protected]

                                          they don't have it on the new app yet, and it's not super intuitive to begin with compared to signal or whatsapp

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                                          the new app is quite pre-release like still. there is also still no new app for the web (and desktop), or is there?

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