Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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Snubbing bluesky is a great way to get people to not take you seriously. When you're making a recruitment thing like this you need to remember you're trying to draw in people who don't fully agree with you.
Bluesky isn't federated as much as they pretend to be and say "they're working on it"
It's just another corporate social platform that will fall into the same thing
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Yeah. I love Signal but it doesn't belong in that list. Dansup (creator of loops and pixelfed) is apparently working on "Sup" that will be a decentralized alternative to whatsapp.
Delta.chat already exists
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What does signal have to do with anything?
The post is really about abandoning the tech oligarchy more than specifically using federated technology.
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Could the software selection be more diverse? There's also MBin/Piefed, and Misskey/Sharkey/Firefish/Akkoma/Iceshrimp.
PS: Signal is not federated at all, it's centralized. It should either be replaced with SimpleX or matrix/Jabber.
Could the software selection be more diverse?
Not if you want people to actually consider switching instead of feeling overwhelmed and confused.
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How so? Seems like just a slightly different UI for the same thing to me?
You think email's UI is only "slightly" different than the UI of chats? I disagree very strongly. The two are extremely different. Email is this weird amalgamation of messages and forums depending on how your client and everyone in the email thread is using it. You can have arbitrarily styling in messages. You can send messages to whoever whenever. Chats are much more focused and linear by comparison.
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Bluesky isn't federated as much as they pretend to be and say "they're working on it"
It's just another corporate social platform that will fall into the same thing
Psst, OP included Signal in this post which isn't federated at all, so the argument of Bluesky not being "federated as much as they pretend to" is a bit irrelevant.
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Not sure what to say to that. Nobody in my group would consider classic email and IMs equivalent, unless you're layering an extra UI layer on top like what the other commentor mentioned.
Agreed most others wouldn't use email as a replacement for casual chat, but its always seemed like an arbitrary choice. So many people waste so much space in emails because they treat them like letters, so the biggest difference seems to be the culture around them rather than the medium itself. If people formatted all text messages as
"Hello Dear Friend,
Here is stuff to waste space.
Here's what I actually want to say.
More extra stuff.
Sincerely,
Walrus"I doubt we would see that much of a difference between them.
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Unfortunately, I don't know a single person who uses Friendica, and that is also, unfortunately, self-defeating because there's no way I could convince them to go without more than just me using it.
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Could the software selection be more diverse?
Not if you want people to actually consider switching instead of feeling overwhelmed and confused.
If only there was a website that helps you choose, instead of inclining users to just use lemmy and only lemmy.world anyway. (also with mastodon and mastodon.social).
Overall i think more software choices are great but you are right in that it could repel users
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For the avid readers out there, bookwyrm is a fantastic alternative to goodreads.
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Psst, OP included Signal in this post which isn't federated at all, so the argument of Bluesky not being "federated as much as they pretend to" is a bit irrelevant.
Ye no shit but I replied to a comment not the post. There's already 5 comments saying that
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Signal isn't federated; it is decentralized ^[1]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.
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- Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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Bro put citations in his lemmy comment
- Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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For the avid readers out there, bookwyrm is a fantastic alternative to goodreads.
Yes it’s excellent!
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Here’s a link you can use to share this post with your friends. The default share link makes you have to click to see the picture and many users will be confused and not click it.
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Thank you for this! Bookmarked this post, downloaded the image, sent it to all my friends. Love you!
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Ah. I see...
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Bro put citations in his lemmy comment
I wish more people did that ngl
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Unfortunately, I don't know a single person who uses Friendica, and that is also, unfortunately, self-defeating because there's no way I could convince them to go without more than just me using it.
Apparently it makes a good RSS feed aggregator if nothing else.
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There's also SimpleX, though it's much less popular. (not like Signal is used everywhere though, it's just a matter of what you switch your group to.)
SimpleX chat is pretty wild and untraditional (no user IDs), people should give it try.
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Ah. I see...
Don't worry, your successor isn't offering anything big. You'll still be around for many more days to come.
