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  • K [email protected]

    Bluesky is just Twitter but with a different techbro in charge

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    techgal*

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      Signal is centralised.

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      You now understood both my point and the OCโ€™s, I hope.

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      • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

        What does this mean?

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        the new cryptographic protocol protects metadata, like signal. the servers know nothing about any encrypted chats

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        • A [email protected]

          Yes! Internet fame achieved!!

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          Haha awesome. Thanks for sharing your videos ๐Ÿ˜

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          • G [email protected]

            Mastodon โŒ

            Bluesky โœ…

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            Kinda feels like bluesky is already going to hell in a handbasket, so maybe not.

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            • Z [email protected]

              They are treated like letters because they arent instant, like letters. Hell, some emails could take full minutes to send.

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              Only time I have the problem is when people attach large files. While is the same problem with other "IM" methods.

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              • A [email protected]

                Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It really looks like they managed to make an ID less chat as simple as possible. But the undeniable benefit of using oneโ€™s phone as ID is that when people switch, their contacts are already there. I think that friction alone will prevent normies from adopting it.

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                You're welcome ๐Ÿ™‚ (btw, nice username)

                Yeah they've tried to make it as similar as whatsapp. But it's hard convincing your entire family to switch again after signal just because you found a cool new app to switch to, lol

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                • P [email protected]

                  Are any of these actually good?

                  I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

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                  While not part of the fediverse if you want Twitter like activity I would suggest BlueSky. However I am also on Mastodon and I find it to have plenty of activity. Itโ€™s not the fire hose that Twitter is but to me that makes it much more manageable.

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                  • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                    SimpleX is cool, but fails the "my grandmother can use it" requirement. Signal has the huge benefit that is just as easy as WhatsApp. With Simplex you have to invite each of your friends individually.

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                    Scan a QR isn't difficult, there are also tantum links

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                    • G [email protected]

                      Mastodon โŒ

                      Bluesky โœ…

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                      People moving from Xitter to Bluesky donโ€™t understand why they moved. They have no clue.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Are any of these actually good?

                        I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

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                        George Takei is active of mastodon. There are many journalists and scientists. Tons of developers. A few small celebs. Also, many people I don't want to be here are not here. That's a plus for me.

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                        • J [email protected]

                          Is Threema still a good option? Anyone know?

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                          My personal opinion is that Threema is still a viable alternative to WhatsApp. The app is open-source, there's even a 'libre' variant on F-Droid. The service is proprietary though. The jurisdiction (Switzerland) seems more trustworthy currently. I don't really understand the business model of Threema: It seems like they have some revenue from a commercial service "Threema Work". The initial cost for purchasing an app license does not really contribute to sustainability I guess. I suspect it is more for making scams more expensive. I hope they can be sustainable from that and don't need to start doing shit.

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                            Scan a QR isn't difficult, there are also tantum links

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                            With Signal you just have to install the App and make an account to start chatting with your friends and family. SimpleX requires me to send a link or QR code to everybody I want to interact with. You will have a hard time convincing anyone to do that. Compare that to the first Twitter exodus, people chose Bluesky over Mastodon because picking a server was 'difficult'. The average person doesn't care about technology at all and will always pick the path of least resistance.

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                              I find youtube to be the hardest one on this list

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                                Signal is open source. They absolutely do always comply with US warrants. They have never provided any information to US law enforcement, because they can't access it. They literally have no way of accessing the information contained inside the texts. The most they could provide is metadata, but they currently aren't collecting that. I also think if they started, it would not work well for their user base. You can see all their requests for information, and the responses they gave, here: https://signal.org/bigbrother/

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                                I really hope they stand strong. We need some influential entities standing up to the shit going on.
                                Sadly, given the current situation in the US I have to assume that the Trump gang will sooner or later try to crack down on Signal. Who knows, forcing them to give out meta data to identify dissidents etc.

                                At least the open-source app makes me hope that there's a little less nasty things they can do than Facebook/Whatsapp.

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                                • csm10495@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                  How is signal considered part of the fediverse?

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                                  Yeah it's a bit off if we're emphasizing a switch to fediverse specifically and not better alternatives in general.

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    Not outside the US.

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                                    It's free in the US, so there's ~360 million potential users they decided to make things harder for

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      I get that, its basically just going back to the model we had before with Teamspeak/Mumble/Ventrilo where the image is meant to be specifically about Federated alternatives/

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                                      You're right. It does not fit the initial picture.

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                                      • leate_wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                                        Things I've learned: the people in this community hate bluesky on principle, their principles are insular and toxic, and they can't read.

                                        This is why people aren't going to mastadon more than Bluesky; because y'all're insufferable. I made the comment in context of the post, so why would you ignore it?

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                                        Okay my bad let me make another comment saying

                                        "Signal isn't federated"

                                        There happy?

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                                        • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                                          You're welcome ๐Ÿ™‚ (btw, nice username)

                                          Yeah they've tried to make it as similar as whatsapp. But it's hard convincing your entire family to switch again after signal just because you found a cool new app to switch to, lol

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                                          I know, Iโ€™m not even going to try. I can already hear the crying and gnashing of teeth.

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