Argentina's president bans gender-affirming care for people under age 18
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My son nearly had to go on puberty blockers, as he was starting to show signs of early puberty. We talked to our pediatrician, who ultimately determined that he's not starting puberty just yet. Turns out he's just a really rambunctious and rowdy 8 year old.
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Go fuck yourself
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I wasn’t aware you were the leading expert on the subject. Because your opinion is so much more informed than mine.
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In addition to what other commenters have said, the extent of gender affirming care should solely be based on:
- the decision of a medical ethics body and
- peer-reviewed and repeated studies
By the way, surgeries removing enlarged breast tissue for men with Gynecomastia is gender affirming care. In the article, it says that in the US 25% of patients were 19 or younger at the time of surgery. Should this too be banned for minors? If not, how exactly is it different from a trans teen desiring surgery?
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Really? Show me one source that's been given to me? Dumbass
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A point some people seem to miss is that this administration is attacking from the bottom. They make it seem like little kids are getting surgeries as soon as they declare they're the opposite gender so no one "reasonable" could be against this ban.
Once this passes and no one objects, and nothing really changes because kids weren't getting surgeries in the first place, they wait a while. Then they'll find some other "issue" and move on to adult trans people.
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No, because you've been arguing in bad faith. At this point the onus is on you.
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That seems extremely un libertarian of him. Wonder how his supporters will spin it as a positive for libertarians
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Cause you can't. Fuck you
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How about you try to enlighten him then, instead of throwing verbal abuse at him. He stated his opinion and you are free to debate him on that.
The fact that he gets attacked like this for his opinion is why I don't engage in these discussions. Your kind of reaction will lose all support for your cause.
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How about you try to enlighten him then,
Why should I? Other people in this thread have already explained why these misconceptions are just that. There's no shortage of resources available from feminists, trans advocates and medical professionals online that argue the point that restricting bodily autonomy is bad far better than I ever could.
The fact that he gets attacked like this for his opinion is why I don't engage in these discussions.
Good. My intent is to provide a disincentive for people to go online and confidently spread their harmful ignorance in ways that fly in the face of common human decency. Thanks for letting me know that I'm effective.
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No it isn't. Children are not considered mature enough to make legal decisions on their own, so the whole libertarian issue doesn't apply to them.
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There's no shortage of resources available from feminists, trans advocates and medical professionals online
If they're so abundant and easy to find, then why not simply share them? You can also link the other posts that explain your position.
confidently spread their harmful ignorance
If he has such an uninformed position, it should be very easy to defend against it instead of wasting everyone's time by making ad hominem attacks? Maybe we can make the internet a better place by not spewing toxic abuse even if one feels attacked by an opinion, no matter how uninformed it is?
You are defending your ideology in the worst way possible, and believe me when I say this, but you will never convince anyone beyond your closed bubble of why we need to move forward as a society this way.
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So he's also going to raise the age of consent from 14 to 18?
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I dunno dude, I am just explaining while this move isn't a contradiction with libertarian ideas.
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I'm just pointing out the fact they don't consider that when it's related to consent.
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Drawing the line is easy: Can the procedure be delayed without any life long consequences? If yes, you can wait until you're an adult.
You want bigger boobs? That's fine, but in the end, it doesn't make a difference whether you do it as a 14 years or as an adult. You can wait 4 more years.
You want steroids to achieve a more muscular body? That's your choice, but it won't harm you to wait another few years, you will still have enough time to achieve and enjoy your ideal body when you are an adult.
You don't want to undergo male puperty? Okay, time to act now, because you will suffer irreversable consequences if we do nothing.
