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What is still considered a rivalry, even though it's mostly one-sided?

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    I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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      I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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      Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake is a good example of "stop! stop! he's already dead!"

      A diss track that calls you out as a pedophile is the most-awarded song in Grammys history, became a theme song of the DNC, was the hit of the Superbowl. And at said Superbowl, he twisted the knife by inviting Serena Williams, someone who you stalked, to dance as a lil fuck you.

      I don't follow hip hop or much pop culture, and even I know this. I know there's way more instances of absolute murder that haven't bubbled up to people like me knowing. Time to wave the flag, Drake.

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        I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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        If we're talking football ⚽, a rivalry is usually a long term thing, that transcends temporary factors like winning records.

        You only have to look at Liverpool and Everton, or Man City and Man United, or Aston Villa and Birmingham City, to see that rivalry can be fierce and lasting even when one side enjoys a long period of dominance over the other.

        As long as it matters more than most games to both sets of fans, it's a rivalry IMO.

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          I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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          The Kansas City Chiefs vs the rest of the NFL.

          I'm glad I lived to see my team's villain era.

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            I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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            I think manga/anime covers mostly one sided rivalry better than a lot of other media. I think it's that drive for perfection that pushes many characters. One is already shown to be near perfect, and the other is always trying to catch up.

            Examples would be Bakugo and Midoria from My Hero Academia. Midoria is by far the most powerful and sees Bakugo as a friend, not a rival, but Bakugo is obsessed to outdo him and keeps pressing himself to find a way to do something Midoria cannot.

            I also think of Ippo and Miyata from Hajime no Ippo. There is a bit more 2 sidedness here, but it is mostly Ippo. Miyata sees they are becoming closer in skill, so he leaves the gym to build himself up on his own away from Ippo, and though Ippo beats people that would outclass Miyata, Miyata is still the one Ippo wants to beat since he set him on the start to his success but still was usually one step ahead of where he wanted to be. Miyata wanted to stay that one step ahead, but wasn't constantly using Ippo to do that after a point, he knew he had to keep looking for greater challenges if he didn't want to be surpassed.

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              I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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              In US college football: Washington State University vs. University of Washington. WSU cares about it a lot. UW... has bigger fish to fry.

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                Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake is a good example of "stop! stop! he's already dead!"

                A diss track that calls you out as a pedophile is the most-awarded song in Grammys history, became a theme song of the DNC, was the hit of the Superbowl. And at said Superbowl, he twisted the knife by inviting Serena Williams, someone who you stalked, to dance as a lil fuck you.

                I don't follow hip hop or much pop culture, and even I know this. I know there's way more instances of absolute murder that haven't bubbled up to people like me knowing. Time to wave the flag, Drake.

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                I love that I keep learning new things about Kendrick's halftime show. Not only did it make some racist uncles very angry, I keep finding hidden things in the show. Absolutely spectacular performance.

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                  I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                  Working Class vs Ownership Class

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                    The Kansas City Chiefs vs the rest of the NFL.

                    I'm glad I lived to see my team's villain era.

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                    The only thing one-sided about the Chiefs are the refs' calls.

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                      The only thing one-sided about the Chiefs are the refs' calls.

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                      Spoken like someone who hasn't actually looked at the stats for accepted penalties in the NFL. If you had, you'd know the Bills and Vikings are actually getting much more help.

                      But that's okay.

                      You can be wrong. 🙂

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                        I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                        In the US? Democrats vs. Republicans.

                        According to the rest of the world, the US doesn't have a left party. Democrats are right wing and Republicans are extremist right wing. The left is completely unrepresented in our government. Both major parties lean conservative (from a global perspective) and care more about helping major businesses and the rich elite than actually representing the people.

                        That's why there's a whole movement centered around "no war but class war." The American people are not actually represented and are instead pitted against each other in this fake "red vs. blue" distraction so we don't actually go after our political leaders, or weed out the source of the money behind the scenes that dictate their actions.

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                          Working Class vs Ownership Class

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                          Yeah that's really no contest anymore.

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                            Yeah that's really no contest anymore.

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                            The horse has been dead for thousands of years, and the dust of its former corpse has scattered to the wind. Yet somehow, it's still being beaten because anything less would be "woke."

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                              In the US? Democrats vs. Republicans.

                              According to the rest of the world, the US doesn't have a left party. Democrats are right wing and Republicans are extremist right wing. The left is completely unrepresented in our government. Both major parties lean conservative (from a global perspective) and care more about helping major businesses and the rich elite than actually representing the people.

                              That's why there's a whole movement centered around "no war but class war." The American people are not actually represented and are instead pitted against each other in this fake "red vs. blue" distraction so we don't actually go after our political leaders, or weed out the source of the money behind the scenes that dictate their actions.

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                              got that right!! I always said I make Democrats look like Republicans

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                                I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                                vim vs. emacs

                                It doesn't matter if you personally like emacs more, far fewer people use it.

                                https://plenz.com/tmp/vi.html

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                                  I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                                  Firefox vs Chrome
                                  Desktop GNU/Linux vs Broken Windows

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                                    I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                                    Nvidia vs AMD.

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                                      In the US? Democrats vs. Republicans.

                                      According to the rest of the world, the US doesn't have a left party. Democrats are right wing and Republicans are extremist right wing. The left is completely unrepresented in our government. Both major parties lean conservative (from a global perspective) and care more about helping major businesses and the rich elite than actually representing the people.

                                      That's why there's a whole movement centered around "no war but class war." The American people are not actually represented and are instead pitted against each other in this fake "red vs. blue" distraction so we don't actually go after our political leaders, or weed out the source of the money behind the scenes that dictate their actions.

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                                      the US doesn’t have a left party

                                      Yes*.

                                      Technically speaking, there's the Green Party and PSL on federal ballots for many states, but the electoral system is positioned so that there's no foreseeable way that a party other than the two main ones could realistically win. So for all intents and purposes, there's no federal left-wing option.

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                                        I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                                        France and UK. UK still thinks they're competing like the old empire days, but France basically just does not care about them/is barely aware of them.

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                                          I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                                          I would say iOS and Android.

                                          Originally they were pretty different in terms of functionality and appearance. Android has improved a lot in terms of the user experience and UI, but also has become more locked down and user hostile. I would say that iOS has actually gotten worse in terms of bugs/reliability, and now Apple is relying on services and ads for new revenue. The user experience has suffered.

                                          If you want a mobile phone/OS that respects user freedoms, agency and privacy, there is no consumer option. Both are filled with spyware/data collection from both the OS vendor and third party apps.

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