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What is still considered a rivalry, even though it's mostly one-sided?

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  • cobysev@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    In the US? Democrats vs. Republicans.

    According to the rest of the world, the US doesn't have a left party. Democrats are right wing and Republicans are extremist right wing. The left is completely unrepresented in our government. Both major parties lean conservative (from a global perspective) and care more about helping major businesses and the rich elite than actually representing the people.

    That's why there's a whole movement centered around "no war but class war." The American people are not actually represented and are instead pitted against each other in this fake "red vs. blue" distraction so we don't actually go after our political leaders, or weed out the source of the money behind the scenes that dictate their actions.

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    got that right!! I always said I make Democrats look like Republicans

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    • V [email protected]

      I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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      vim vs. emacs

      It doesn't matter if you personally like emacs more, far fewer people use it.

      https://plenz.com/tmp/vi.html

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      • V [email protected]

        I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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        Firefox vs Chrome
        Desktop GNU/Linux vs Broken Windows

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        • V [email protected]

          I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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          Nvidia vs AMD.

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          • cobysev@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            In the US? Democrats vs. Republicans.

            According to the rest of the world, the US doesn't have a left party. Democrats are right wing and Republicans are extremist right wing. The left is completely unrepresented in our government. Both major parties lean conservative (from a global perspective) and care more about helping major businesses and the rich elite than actually representing the people.

            That's why there's a whole movement centered around "no war but class war." The American people are not actually represented and are instead pitted against each other in this fake "red vs. blue" distraction so we don't actually go after our political leaders, or weed out the source of the money behind the scenes that dictate their actions.

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            the US doesn’t have a left party

            Yes*.

            Technically speaking, there's the Green Party and PSL on federal ballots for many states, but the electoral system is positioned so that there's no foreseeable way that a party other than the two main ones could realistically win. So for all intents and purposes, there's no federal left-wing option.

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            • V [email protected]

              I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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              France and UK. UK still thinks they're competing like the old empire days, but France basically just does not care about them/is barely aware of them.

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              • V [email protected]

                I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                I would say iOS and Android.

                Originally they were pretty different in terms of functionality and appearance. Android has improved a lot in terms of the user experience and UI, but also has become more locked down and user hostile. I would say that iOS has actually gotten worse in terms of bugs/reliability, and now Apple is relying on services and ads for new revenue. The user experience has suffered.

                If you want a mobile phone/OS that respects user freedoms, agency and privacy, there is no consumer option. Both are filled with spyware/data collection from both the OS vendor and third party apps.

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                  I would say iOS and Android.

                  Originally they were pretty different in terms of functionality and appearance. Android has improved a lot in terms of the user experience and UI, but also has become more locked down and user hostile. I would say that iOS has actually gotten worse in terms of bugs/reliability, and now Apple is relying on services and ads for new revenue. The user experience has suffered.

                  If you want a mobile phone/OS that respects user freedoms, agency and privacy, there is no consumer option. Both are filled with spyware/data collection from both the OS vendor and third party apps.

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                  This doesn't feel like an answer to the question. Sounds like you're saying that Android and iOS are both now similar, not that one has been victorious over the other.

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                  • V [email protected]

                    I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                    Bavaria - rest of germany

                    Bavaria thinks they are the best and crown jewl of german cultures. Rest of germany is just annoyed, swabians and franconians in bavaria are also annoyed because they always get thrown in with bavarians

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                      This doesn't feel like an answer to the question. Sounds like you're saying that Android and iOS are both now similar, not that one has been victorious over the other.

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                      I would say it is one sided in that the user gets the same treatment/experience from either platform even though they are consider rivals and each company would argue they are different.

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                      • obi@sopuli.xyzO [email protected]

                        France and UK. UK still thinks they're competing like the old empire days, but France basically just does not care about them/is barely aware of them.

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                        France is all about Germany ever since we got married to Germany with Merkel

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                        • V [email protected]

                          I don't have any good examples that I know of, but I am very curious. To me though, a rivalry is a rivalry when two or more of people are closely competitive. But is it really a rivalry anymore when someone has more victories over the other? I don't think so.

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                          US and China where it's abundantly clear that China has now won.

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                          • anon6789@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            I think manga/anime covers mostly one sided rivalry better than a lot of other media. I think it's that drive for perfection that pushes many characters. One is already shown to be near perfect, and the other is always trying to catch up.

                            Examples would be Bakugo and Midoria from My Hero Academia. Midoria is by far the most powerful and sees Bakugo as a friend, not a rival, but Bakugo is obsessed to outdo him and keeps pressing himself to find a way to do something Midoria cannot.

                            I also think of Ippo and Miyata from Hajime no Ippo. There is a bit more 2 sidedness here, but it is mostly Ippo. Miyata sees they are becoming closer in skill, so he leaves the gym to build himself up on his own away from Ippo, and though Ippo beats people that would outclass Miyata, Miyata is still the one Ippo wants to beat since he set him on the start to his success but still was usually one step ahead of where he wanted to be. Miyata wanted to stay that one step ahead, but wasn't constantly using Ippo to do that after a point, he knew he had to keep looking for greater challenges if he didn't want to be surpassed.

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                            Especially if you also consider the abridged version but gokou and vegeta also a good example.

                            Kakarot just treats Vegeta like a freind, and Vegeta will never think of Gokou as someone he has to surpass and maintain some kind of supremecy over

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                              Especially if you also consider the abridged version but gokou and vegeta also a good example.

                              Kakarot just treats Vegeta like a freind, and Vegeta will never think of Gokou as someone he has to surpass and maintain some kind of supremecy over

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                              Vegeta really goes to great lengths to try and catch up. Goku just makes it look so easy while Vegeta is always taking a beating and getting better, but nowhere near Goku. The guy even lets himself get possessed to try to catch up.

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