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    Yeah, it can be hard to find files sometimes. File Navigator solves this problem perfectly.

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      It has very little to do with unix philosophy

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      yo thatโ€™s the joke i was making XD

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        We call it Linux.

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        Android is built in the Linux kernel. That's actually some of what causes this - Android's permissions model takes the Linux model and amplifies it. Apps are treated like users to prevent them from messing with each other's files. If an app uses Android's downloads manager it can write to the downloads directory, but it can only see the files that it put there.

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          Meanwhile
          Windows; Hi, you saved a file earlier? Let's search for it. Nope, can't find it, do you want to search Bing? No?
          [A few minutes later] Ooo, so sorry you're offline and can't download it. Too bad.

          Ios; you want to open the file in an app? OK, click 7 buttons and we'll make a local copy stored in the app's specific folder you didn't know existed.

          Chrome; what's a file?

          Linux; which file browser would you like to use today?

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          #140

          Linux

          the default one that comes with every distro and opens by default when i want to find files.

          its only a problem if you fiddle with installing more file browsers, as with any os really.

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            Ok I see the confusion, on your end. You assume this file is being saved to the global FS and this app has its own resources. So to save it globally you have to share it to the files app. i get that's confusing to normies. But it took me 20 seconds to figure it out. I'm guessing chatgpt didn't give the answer.

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            Ok I see the confusion, on your end. You assume this file is being saved to the global FS and this app has its own resources. So to save it globally you have to share it to the files app. i get that's confusing to normies. But it took me 20 seconds to figure it out. I'm guessing chatgpt didn't give the answer.

            I'm sorry, did you or did you not say the files app just shows everything? Does the meme imply that finding files on Android is difficult? Did you not just explain something extremely counterintuitive that's contradictory to your own first post? ๐Ÿ™„

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              Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and don't engage in anything as banal as copying other people.

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              Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and donโ€™t engage in anything as banal as copying other people and sarcasm ๐Ÿ™‚

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                Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and donโ€™t engage in anything as banal as copying other people and sarcasm ๐Ÿ™‚

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                #143

                Well said, o7

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                  Exactly the fucking following: put my fucking files in the directories I fucking created for my fucking files, show me the fucking file system the way it fucking looks when traversed by fucking ls

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                  #144

                  I literally do this on my Android, what are you people on about. My download go into my Downloads folder. I can browse my phone just like a computer....

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                    Don't you know? Users being told the exact location of a file is not user-friendly!

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                    #145

                    There are not files. There are only vibes. If your surf the vibe ocean well enough, you will find what you were looking for.

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                      Ok I see the confusion, on your end. You assume this file is being saved to the global FS and this app has its own resources. So to save it globally you have to share it to the files app. i get that's confusing to normies. But it took me 20 seconds to figure it out. I'm guessing chatgpt didn't give the answer.

                      I'm sorry, did you or did you not say the files app just shows everything? Does the meme imply that finding files on Android is difficult? Did you not just explain something extremely counterintuitive that's contradictory to your own first post? ๐Ÿ™„

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                      #146

                      I def did not say the "files app shows (everything)" . I hope the reading skills improve. If we are being pedantic.

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                        You could use a different file manager. And there's a few places I would look for files : downloads, pictures, etc, or in a folder named for the app under one of those places

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                        1000001590

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                          Bit by bit? The move to mobile was like getting hit in the face with an inaccessibility bat. I hate mobile OSes with a passion. Unfortunately, they're overwhelmingly the way through which people interact with the Internet or do any kind of tech stuff anymore. I do a lot of audio work, and Android lacks even simple routing software. It just uses the last audio device plugged into it. Never mind you only want to use the mic on that and not the output. Forget using multiple devices. It's infuriating. You'll pry my desktop away from me through my cold, dead hands.

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                            Yeah, it can be hard to find files sometimes. File Navigator solves this problem perfectly.

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                            Solid Explorer has always been my go to. I never understood why basic file explorer functions essentially required the use of a separate app, but it's functionality is superb and the now-baked-in-but-terrible file explorer in android can never hope to match it.

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                              sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm

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                              now look here you little... oh actually it would be nice to get away from tech honestly......

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                                File manager > Recent files

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                                Seriously, this thread has me very confused about how a social media platform seemingly inundated with nerds can't open a file manager (which often comes pre-installed) to find a downloads folder.

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                                  It's built on a , by now very modified and incompatible, Linux kernel. But not a GNU userland at all.

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                                  Itโ€™s built on a , by now very modified and incompatible, Linux kernel.

                                  Which is also forked again by various phone manufacturers that make their own modifications on top of it.

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                                    Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and donโ€™t engage in anything as banal as copying other people and sarcasm ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    I'm never sarcastic.

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                                      Pretty sure you've never used an Android, iPhone file managemt is locked down and dumbed down garbage, made so to make people more dependent on paying for and using the app store apps, without understanding the underlying system at all, and the primary reason I'm moving back to Android. Can't let some shit tech company dictate how I use my own devices file system, or what apps I can and can't install on it.

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                                      Using OwlFiles pretty much fixed it for me on the iPhone. Having extensively used android for many years, and now iPhone for a couple, I think both have their pros and cons.

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                                        That's an interesting point about OneDrive automatically backing up folders. It reminds me of the time I was messing around with a weird game concept, something like a chicken jockey clicker, and I accidentally saved all the game files to a cloud folder without realizing it. Took forever to sort out the mess.

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                                          File manager > Recent files

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                                          literally I've had files that file manager cannot see or interact with at all. I think they always came from termux, which is what I used to unzip zip files. Definitely in the right directory but just plain invisible to file manager and other apps.

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