Asahi Linux Lead Developer Hector Martin Steps Down As Upstream Apple Silicon Maintainer

[programmingsocks@pawb.social]

Rust is already as fast as C and memory safe. The reasons people don't want it in the kernel basically amount to being a boomer that doesn't like new things for immaterial reasons.

[expr@programming.dev]

So... Rust?

[ahal@lemmy.ca]

I always thought kernel devs were smart people. I'm kind of shocked learning a new language is this big of a barrier to them.

[ceebee_eh@lemmy.world]

They kind of already do. The C used by the kernel team isn't the exact same as what everyone else uses. Mainly because of the tooling they've built around it. I can't remember specifics, but the tooling in place really helps out in that department.

Also, "memory safe C" is already a proposal for the C lang project.

[lefantome@programming.dev]

Not a fork of course but there is Redox

https://www.redox-os.org/

[lefantome@programming.dev]

No. The kernel does not care about X11 vs Wayland. Or rather, both X11 and Wayland use KM| ( Kernel Mode Setting ) and DRM ( Direct Rendering ) these days. That is, both X11 and Wayland call on the same kernel features.

[lefantome@programming.dev]

RISC-V is the “new” CPU architecture

[robertomorrison@lemmy.world]

Even “smart people” have resource/time limitations. Learning rust to an extent that will work on that level is not the same as learning C.

[dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

The rust people said they'd take ownership of the work for the bindings. What's the issue?

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

Does the kernel not need a lot of memory unsafe Rust code? There is a way to bypass the safety nets and I heard that for stuff like kernel development that is necessity.

[integrate777@discuss.online]

Hector posting it to social media, and by his own admission, to shame the C devs, is pretty hostile and bad faith too.

[andrewd18@midwest.social]

This kind of stuff happens in big companies too, but you don't see it because it's not in a public mailing list. One of my teams had a developer who stood on tables to yell until his opinion was accepted, and one time when another developer wouldn't back down, he threw a chair at them. That angry developer worked there for another 7 years until retirement, while many smart team members around him quit rather than continue dealing with him.

[penquin@lemm.ee]

. I'd beat the shit out of the mother fucker. I get that he's a smart developer, but you don't fucking throw a chair at me, bitch.

[merthyr1831@lemmy.ml]

Linus needs to step back again. He's a liability to the kernel's long term sustainability.