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Is the Steam Deck getting outdated soon? Should I wait for the next gen?

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    Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

    I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

    I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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    My crystal ball says buy one now.

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    • C [email protected]

      Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

      I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

      I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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      It depends, a lot of modern AAA games run fine but a good amount of them are very unoptimized and run poorly on the Deck.

      Valve said not to expect a hardware refresh soon since newer chips are more expensive and not that much faster, just look at the handheld PCs selling for ~$900 that are only 25% faster.

      There are plenty of benchmarks online so you can check if the games you want will work properly or not.

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      • C [email protected]

        Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

        I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

        I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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        me, who bought the steam deck primarily to play roms of games from 30 years ago: never had a problem so far.

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        • C [email protected]

          Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

          I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

          I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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          It works imho best for games in the 2014-2018 time range. Newer games work fine but can run at 30-40 fps. The UE5 Games I have tested run only with a lot of upscale (lords of the falling in particular) but still playable.

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            me, who bought the steam deck primarily to play roms of games from 30 years ago: never had a problem so far.

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            Yeah I will very likely spend half of the time playing retro games on it. At the same time I don't want to regret when there is a new AAA game that I really want to play. (There is nothing annouced that I considered as "must play", and I am not interested in GTA6).

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            • C [email protected]

              Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

              I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

              I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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              It’s already outdated for that because the hardware is weak. If what you want is AAA games, just buy a ROG Ally Z1E, it’s much better for your use case. Buy it used.

              But I do need to point out that AAA games are trash and you should reflect on your life choices if that’s all you care to play.

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                It works imho best for games in the 2014-2018 time range. Newer games work fine but can run at 30-40 fps. The UE5 Games I have tested run only with a lot of upscale (lords of the falling in particular) but still playable.

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                Yeah that's my concern as many new AAA games will be UE5. I've also read that Oblivion Remastered struggles on the Deck. (I prefer the original Oblivion anyway).

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                  It’s already outdated for that because the hardware is weak. If what you want is AAA games, just buy a ROG Ally Z1E, it’s much better for your use case. Buy it used.

                  But I do need to point out that AAA games are trash and you should reflect on your life choices if that’s all you care to play.

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                  you should reflect on your life choices if that’s all you care to play

                  That sounds a bit harsh. I just want a good return on investment which allows me to play a variety of games including retro and AAA. I don't know where you got the idea that I only care to play AAA games.

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                    you should reflect on your life choices if that’s all you care to play

                    That sounds a bit harsh. I just want a good return on investment which allows me to play a variety of games including retro and AAA. I don't know where you got the idea that I only care to play AAA games.

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                    Just in case. Much better games in the indie and AA segments these days.

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                      It’s already outdated for that because the hardware is weak. If what you want is AAA games, just buy a ROG Ally Z1E, it’s much better for your use case. Buy it used.

                      But I do need to point out that AAA games are trash and you should reflect on your life choices if that’s all you care to play.

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                      No need to gatekeep things in such a heavy-handed manner. People can enjoy whatever kind of games they do. Gaming is about having fun, not about measuring ego based on your self-imposed rules

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                      • C [email protected]

                        Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

                        I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

                        I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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                        If you are looking for an affordable device to play AAA games well on with no issues, get a ps5.

                        If you are looking for a hand held to play indie titles and the plethora of older games available I'd go for the steam deck.

                        I think it'll be a while until we get a hand held experience like the steam deck but with AAA capable hardware.

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                          Just in case. Much better games in the indie and AA segments these days.

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                          80% of the games in my library are indie and AA games. But I wouldn't want to miss out on games like TES VI and Fable reboot.

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                            If you are looking for an affordable device to play AAA games well on with no issues, get a ps5.

                            If you are looking for a hand held to play indie titles and the plethora of older games available I'd go for the steam deck.

                            I think it'll be a while until we get a hand held experience like the steam deck but with AAA capable hardware.

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                            Do you mean that the Steam Deck is currently not capable of AAA?

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                              It depends, a lot of modern AAA games run fine but a good amount of them are very unoptimized and run poorly on the Deck.

                              Valve said not to expect a hardware refresh soon since newer chips are more expensive and not that much faster, just look at the handheld PCs selling for ~$900 that are only 25% faster.

                              There are plenty of benchmarks online so you can check if the games you want will work properly or not.

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                              Yeah there isnt anything of the same size with significantly more power afaik. Gotta go with a laptop then if u need the power.

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                                Yeah there isnt anything of the same size with significantly more power afaik. Gotta go with a laptop then if u need the power.

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                                I actually have a laptop with RTX 3050, but it gets extremely noisy while playing games. I also prefer to play handheld. Currently I stream games to my tablet via the cloud or from my laptop.

                                It seems that most gaming laptops are noisy and expensive. The Steam Deck appears to be reasonably priced with decent performance.

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                                  Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?

                                  I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.

                                  I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.

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                                  That's a pretty personal opinion but I'm a Switch owner and if there is one thing I don't miss on it, it's AAA games. Not because I dislike AAA, but because I think in handheld mode I really preferred games with simpler graphics, like Mario games (2D and 3D), sidescrollers, the top down Zelda games or (S)NES games. I really had a hard time when I tried Breath of the Wild and ended up playing it in the dock almost completely. I think it's a real missed opportunity that the new Pokemon games aim for 3D and open worlds because it not only hurts the games performance, but for me also the playability.

                                  I'm interested in switching to a Steam Deck but I don't think I would play visually complex games on it. That's what my PC is for. But I don't know if that's just me or if other people feel the same.

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                                    I actually have a laptop with RTX 3050, but it gets extremely noisy while playing games. I also prefer to play handheld. Currently I stream games to my tablet via the cloud or from my laptop.

                                    It seems that most gaming laptops are noisy and expensive. The Steam Deck appears to be reasonably priced with decent performance.

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                                    If you remote play from the laptop that you have now the performance will be better than playing directly from the deck, but the noise can be in another room. And since the deck isn't doing much compute, battery life should be great too. And you can stream at the Deck's native resolution so your fps will be higher than your laptop's display (assuming that is full hd)

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                                      Yeah that's my concern as many new AAA games will be UE5. I've also read that Oblivion Remastered struggles on the Deck. (I prefer the original Oblivion anyway).

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                                      Oblivion remastered runs perfectly fine on my steam deck.

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                                        No need to gatekeep things in such a heavy-handed manner. People can enjoy whatever kind of games they do. Gaming is about having fun, not about measuring ego based on your self-imposed rules

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                                        Now I'm thinking about the old e-penis hardware algorithm scripts for IRC!

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                                          80% of the games in my library are indie and AA games. But I wouldn't want to miss out on games like TES VI and Fable reboot.

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                                          If you already have a good sized steam library then take a look at how much of your games are “deck verified” to run on it and decide from there. I have a decent desktop pc with a 4070 ti and 9900k cpu and I still do most of my gaming on my steam deck.

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