Is the Steam Deck getting outdated soon? Should I wait for the next gen?
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All games in my current library look fine. Just want to plan slightly ahead for upcoming games in the near future (around 2 years).
The deck is now 3 years old, so it’s not all that future proof. I expect to see a successor sometime in the next 2-3 years or whenever it makes sense for Valve to upgrade it without losing battery life.
I’m on my second Deck (LCD sold for an OLED), and I honestly couldn’t be much happier. I feel like the base models are one hellava good buy even still.
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Yeah I will very likely spend half of the time playing retro games on it. At the same time I don't want to regret when there is a new AAA game that I really want to play. (There is nothing annouced that I considered as "must play", and I am not interested in GTA6).
Even if a new AAA comes out that you’re eagerly wanting to play and the performance may not be great on Steam Deck, don’t forget about all the hundreds of games you also love that can be played on Steam Deck. Or the ROMs from nostalgic consoles that you love.
If you have a gaming solution now and you’re not ready to commit, just wait for the inevitable next gen Deck as you’ll be happier that way. Of course we’ll never know when it is coming.
Get a device now and play the games you want? Or wait ~2 years and get the next gen so you can play some games better?
Only you can make that informed decision that works best for you. Best of luck!
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Even if a new AAA comes out that you’re eagerly wanting to play and the performance may not be great on Steam Deck, don’t forget about all the hundreds of games you also love that can be played on Steam Deck. Or the ROMs from nostalgic consoles that you love.
If you have a gaming solution now and you’re not ready to commit, just wait for the inevitable next gen Deck as you’ll be happier that way. Of course we’ll never know when it is coming.
Get a device now and play the games you want? Or wait ~2 years and get the next gen so you can play some games better?
Only you can make that informed decision that works best for you. Best of luck!
That's a very reasonable take. Thanks.
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That's a very reasonable take. Thanks.
Sure thing. I also read more comments and saw you have a laptop and stream games to a tablet.
For my use case, I have a desktop PC for when I want to play at high fidelity and have serious time to sit down and game. The Steam Deck I have is for the free moments of gaming time I can get. I can be on the couch and game. Sit on my porch during a break and game for a bit. I can click the button to sleep the console and pick up in two days from right where I left off - either Steam games or ROMs.
A Steam Deck isn’t cheap so definitely weigh your options and find out what works best for you. If you feel you want the performance uplift and can just wait, then put your laptop in another room so you won’t hear it and steam it to a tablet with a controller in your hands or something. That’ll give you a great experience, too. Then you can get Deck 2 and feel happier with your decision.
If money isn’t as much of a concern, freaking get it now lol.
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Yeah there isnt anything of the same size with significantly more power afaik. Gotta go with a laptop then if u need the power.
It’s new so reviews are just filtering out but it’s starting to look like SteamOS powered version of the Legion Go S (Z1 Extreme version) is a pretty great handheld that uses the latest AMD chipset with a sizable assist from Linux/proton efficiencies vs Windows to drive a 15-30% performance improvement which does make some more modern games more playable though it is significantly more expensive than the deck. I watched Retro Games Corps review of it yesterday. That said, if you’re okay waiting another couple years or so I bet there will be a Steam Deck 2 release but it seems like it mainly rests on AMD to deliver a significant (“generational”) leap with upcoming mobile APUs. Valve seems keen on not releasing a follow-up to the first deck until it is significantly better in every way and the chipsets available now just aren’t quite there yet it seems.
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Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?
I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.
I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.
Here is my opinion. I absolutely love playing oblivion on my gaming laptop with RTX4080. It looks gorgeous and so do a lot of games.
That said, I'd rather play on the deck with somewhat less graphics and chill on the couch after a long day of work. I just love the portability. Performance is okay for most games (it even plays oblivion okayish with reasonable graphics). A lot of games are optimized pretty well for it.
I just see it as an open source switch you can do and play anything you like on. I have tried windows on it too but personally it has no benefit for me so I use steamOS.
Games I play on it:
Oblivion remastered
Borderlands 3
Risk of Rain 2
Elden Ring
GTA VI also stream from my PlayStation 5 to my deck with chiaki4deck.
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It’s already outdated for that because the hardware is weak. If what you want is AAA games, just buy a ROG Ally Z1E, it’s much better for your use case. Buy it used.
But I do need to point out that AAA games are trash and you should reflect on your life choices if that’s all you care to play.
Jfc. Dude asked for a simple question, got handed down life lesson.
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Yeah I have tried cleaning the fans but it doesn't help. I think it is just not designed well for gaming use.
Ah, bad luck
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Ah, bad luck
Is it just bad luck? I've watched many gaming laptop reviews and most of them seem to mention excessive fan noise. Steam Deck seems to be significantly more quiet, and the Switch 2 is essential silent.
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Yeah that's my concern as many new AAA games will be UE5. I've also read that Oblivion Remastered struggles on the Deck. (I prefer the original Oblivion anyway).
It's not necessarily UE5 that has issues with the Steam Deck, but what they do with it. For example, Clair Obscur plays well on Steam Deck, but I wouldn't even try to play Ark Survival Ascended.
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It's not necessarily UE5 that has issues with the Steam Deck, but what they do with it. For example, Clair Obscur plays well on Steam Deck, but I wouldn't even try to play Ark Survival Ascended.
Good to know. Hopefully future UE5 games will be more optimised.
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Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?
I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.
I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.
The next gen steam deck likely isn't coming out for quite awhile still, so it's probably not worth waiting for next gen.
Performance wise, the Steam Deck does struggle to run new AAA games if they're poorly optimized, use UE5, or have mandatory ray tracing for lighting. It's still possible to play most of these games, but it will depend on your tolerance for graphics quality or your willingness to install performance mods. There's also no shortage of good games to play, slightly older AAA games generally work flawlessly and nearly all AA/indie games run great. I have enough good games in my library where I could never buy another game and always have something good to play.
The switch 2 in portable mode has nearly identical power to the Steam Deck, so if it sells anywhere close to Switch 1 I think we'll see a lot of games target being able to run on it. The switch 1 was far enough behind modern platforms to not be worth optimizing for, for most AAA games/devs. But the switch 2 and steam deck generally have enough power to run new games at an almost acceptable level, and that makes optimization a much more appealing target.
Also worth considering is local streaming. If you have a decent PC/PS5 you can stream games to the deck. It can be a good compromise for the games that don't run great natively.
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Here is my opinion. I absolutely love playing oblivion on my gaming laptop with RTX4080. It looks gorgeous and so do a lot of games.
That said, I'd rather play on the deck with somewhat less graphics and chill on the couch after a long day of work. I just love the portability. Performance is okay for most games (it even plays oblivion okayish with reasonable graphics). A lot of games are optimized pretty well for it.
I just see it as an open source switch you can do and play anything you like on. I have tried windows on it too but personally it has no benefit for me so I use steamOS.
Games I play on it:
Oblivion remastered
Borderlands 3
Risk of Rain 2
Elden Ring
GTA VI also stream from my PlayStation 5 to my deck with chiaki4deck.
FYI- you can also stream from your laptop to the Deck. Technically you can do it on a per-game basis through Steam (which you may have already noticed), but I find it's even better to install Steam Link as a non-Steam game, similar to what you probably did with Chiaki. As long as you have a good local network it's great and uses way less of the Deck's power.
I have no idea why Valve hasn't added Steam Link to the Steam store. That would make things so much easier, and you get way more settings and fewer bugs that way than doing the per-game streaming option.
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me, who bought the steam deck primarily to play roms of games from 30 years ago: never had a problem so far.
Same, the last roughly 40 hours of my gameplay on the Deck have been PS1/2 and Xbox games, with a few hours of New Vegas sprinkled in.
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It’s new so reviews are just filtering out but it’s starting to look like SteamOS powered version of the Legion Go S (Z1 Extreme version) is a pretty great handheld that uses the latest AMD chipset with a sizable assist from Linux/proton efficiencies vs Windows to drive a 15-30% performance improvement which does make some more modern games more playable though it is significantly more expensive than the deck. I watched Retro Games Corps review of it yesterday. That said, if you’re okay waiting another couple years or so I bet there will be a Steam Deck 2 release but it seems like it mainly rests on AMD to deliver a significant (“generational”) leap with upcoming mobile APUs. Valve seems keen on not releasing a follow-up to the first deck until it is significantly better in every way and the chipsets available now just aren’t quite there yet it seems.
Efficiency is also a major problem i think. You can always just slap a higher power APU in there, but then you also have to cool that thing. And that means either a higher RPM fan or a larger device with a bigger radiator.
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Is it just bad luck? I've watched many gaming laptop reviews and most of them seem to mention excessive fan noise. Steam Deck seems to be significantly more quiet, and the Switch 2 is essential silent.
I meant bad luck that you bought a machine with loud fans generally!
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Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?
I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.
I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games?
It did that on day 1. It's a mobile device. You have to temper your expectations.
I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.
The XBOX is not going to have similar performance. The Nintendo is actually quite a bit more performant. But more importantly the games on these devices are going to be specifically designed and optimized to run on a specific piece of hardware.
I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.
It obviously depends on the game but newer AAA titles are going to struggle to hit 30FPS on 800p/low.
If you want something with more performance you should get the Legion Go (non S) or Ally X and run Bazzite on it.
Should I wait for the next gen?
Valve is very quiet about these things. I don't think anyone saw the OLED model coming. There were no leaks or rumors. Just boom, one day there it was. So probably no one knows and anyone who says they do is probably lying.
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If you are looking for an affordable device to play AAA games well on with no issues, get a ps5.
If you are looking for a hand held to play indie titles and the plethora of older games available I'd go for the steam deck.
I think it'll be a while until we get a hand held experience like the steam deck but with AAA capable hardware.
I think it'll be a while until we get a hand held experience like the steam deck but with AAA capable hardware.
That will never happen. Physically larger devices are always going to be more performant. And AAA titles will just increase the demands of games accordingly.
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Are there electronic goods on the market that aren't, in some part, made in China?
There's a vast different between "a part made in China" and "made by Chinese companies".
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Is the Steam Deck performance struggling with new AAA games? Should I be concerned buying a Steam Deck now?
I'm guessing/hoping not because most game developers would optimise the games for the Switch 2 and Xbox Series S which have similar performances as the Deck.
I think 30 fps (consistent) is perfectly fine, and I don't mind medium details.
The Steam Deck runs games at PS4-level graphics fairly well. It will definitely struggle with newer AAA games if they don't have graphics options low enough for the Deck.
