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  • Z [email protected]

    Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

    Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

    What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

    S This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    Besides the privacy issue, the TOU is ridiculous. They supply a tool (the browser) and you use it. It's not a collaboration between you and them. You can use it whatever way you want.

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    • Z [email protected]

      Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

      Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

      What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

      dojan@lemmy.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
      dojan@lemmy.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      Yes, they're gearing up to sell your data.

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      • Z [email protected]

        Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

        Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

        What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

        fizz@lemmy.nzF This user is from outside of this forum
        fizz@lemmy.nzF This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        Mozilla ai really isn't that great stop getting caught in the wave. We don't want another dogshit ai company we want a Foss promoting web browser

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        • Z [email protected]

          Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

          Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

          What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

          swizzlestick@lemmy.zipS This user is from outside of this forum
          swizzlestick@lemmy.zipS This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          Used FF forever, even though the birth and rise of Chrome.

          We're done. The company I IT for therefore is also done. As are friends and family I sort computers for.

          The shit now stinks and must be taken out.

          gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG tux0r@feddit.orgT 2 Replies Last reply
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          • Z [email protected]

            Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

            Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

            What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

            P This user is from outside of this forum
            P This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            Well shoot if Firefox goes I guess we’re back to carrier pigeons and smoke signals.

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            • Z [email protected]

              Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

              Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

              What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

              C This user is from outside of this forum
              C This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              I have really high hopes that Ladybird picks up the slack

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                Well shoot if Firefox goes I guess we’re back to carrier pigeons and smoke signals.

                captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                How about Orion?

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                • Z [email protected]

                  Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

                  Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

                  What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

                  gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
                  gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  You might not be using functions that require data to work. Are you using the AI options? Image to text? Translation? Saving passwords? Using search suggestions? Then you don't need to send any data.

                  Like it or not, most browsers do most of those things now. FireFox is no exception.

                  This seems like a lot of smoke and no fire to me.

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                  • swizzlestick@lemmy.zipS [email protected]

                    Used FF forever, even though the birth and rise of Chrome.

                    We're done. The company I IT for therefore is also done. As are friends and family I sort computers for.

                    The shit now stinks and must be taken out.

                    gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
                    gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    Reading through their privacy policy, it seems pretty normal stuff to me... Even ensuring that more data stays local than other browsers.

                    This sounds like bad communication more than bad software.

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                    • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                      You might not be using functions that require data to work. Are you using the AI options? Image to text? Translation? Saving passwords? Using search suggestions? Then you don't need to send any data.

                      Like it or not, most browsers do most of those things now. FireFox is no exception.

                      This seems like a lot of smoke and no fire to me.

                      breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB This user is from outside of this forum
                      breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      Even writing a post, you're entering data through Firefox into the post box. We just don't consider that data. It would be pretty quiet around here if you couldn't do that...

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                      • captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                        How about Orion?

                        tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #15

                        Or just make NetSurf good enough?

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                        • C [email protected]

                          I have really high hopes that Ladybird picks up the slack

                          tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
                          tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #16

                          Or make NetSurf good enough? It's mature (and lacking developers), Ladybird is not.

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                          • Z [email protected]

                            Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

                            Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

                            What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

                            tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
                            tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            Oh no, does this mean that Mozilla doesn't give a damn about the privacy of their last twelve users? I.e. those who did not see that coming a decade ago?

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                            • swizzlestick@lemmy.zipS [email protected]

                              Used FF forever, even though the birth and rise of Chrome.

                              We're done. The company I IT for therefore is also done. As are friends and family I sort computers for.

                              The shit now stinks and must be taken out.

                              tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
                              tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              Used FF forever

                              So you probably should remember the Mozilla FAQ entry that it's "Firefox", not "FireFox"; and that's why they prefer "fx" because "FF" makes no sense. 😜

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                              • Z [email protected]

                                Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

                                Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

                                What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

                                krik@lemmy.dbzer0.comK This user is from outside of this forum
                                krik@lemmy.dbzer0.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                WHY DO YOU NEED MY DATA TO MAKE FIREFOX WORK???

                                They don't care about your actual data, they care about how Firefox is used. That's an incredible important piece of information every developer needs to know.
                                How else do you get to know, what's working right and what doesn't? How do you plan development for the next years if you don't know what to develop?

                                This is about throwing millions of $ at the right thing. If you miss you are fucked.

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                                • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                                  Reading through their privacy policy, it seems pretty normal stuff to me... Even ensuring that more data stays local than other browsers.

                                  This sounds like bad communication more than bad software.

                                  kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #20

                                  This isn’t really even bad communication. This is idiots with a platform screaming FUD for attention.

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                                  • tux0r@feddit.orgT [email protected]

                                    Or just make NetSurf good enough?

                                    mcasq_qsacj_234@lemmy.zipM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #21

                                    NetSurf updates are very slow

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                                    • mcasq_qsacj_234@lemmy.zipM [email protected]

                                      NetSurf updates are very slow

                                      tux0r@feddit.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      NetSurf needs more developers, which is one of the reasons for the development pace, and I'm happy for every occasion to help them get more, so here's today's one.

                                      (Mature software needs fewer updates than fresh software too, but that's probably not the most critical aspect here.)

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                                      • Z [email protected]

                                        Apparently mozilla wants the right to get data from firefox users. But not like general information, they want to know what data you upload or download through firefox.

                                        Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example.

                                        What the fuck? I use firefox because I want privacy!!! Not sharing my information with a company.

                                        cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        i still like mozilla (and I donate to them monthly because i believe in the mission of an open internet) and, unlike most people, i don't think this is a very big deal.

                                        however, i don't want to put all my eggs in one basket so... are there any other ethical pro open internet evangelist groups i should start to follow or contribute to? preferably an ethical foundation that isn't cryptofash or bigoted. i know there's the eff but they're not really focused on an open and free internet, they're more privacy (nothing against them; i love them).

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                                        • krik@lemmy.dbzer0.comK [email protected]

                                          WHY DO YOU NEED MY DATA TO MAKE FIREFOX WORK???

                                          They don't care about your actual data, they care about how Firefox is used. That's an incredible important piece of information every developer needs to know.
                                          How else do you get to know, what's working right and what doesn't? How do you plan development for the next years if you don't know what to develop?

                                          This is about throwing millions of $ at the right thing. If you miss you are fucked.

                                          B This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          You use your own software and read bug reports.

                                          krik@lemmy.dbzer0.comK 1 Reply Last reply
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