So how do you feel about the whole Charlie Kirk divide?
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The main thing I take away from this is how soft people have become since the corporate sanitization of the web. That video was tame compared to stuff that regularly made the rounds even ten years ago. The way people talk about it, you'd think it was a drug cartel video.
Back in high school my friends would show me cartel beheading videos on the bus to track meets. It sounds far-fetched, but it really happened. I couldn’t even believe it either.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
I didn't really know anything about him until after I heard he died. And shortly after that, I heard that three kids died in another school shooting.
I don't give a fuck about Charlie. I'm pissed that he's getting a flag at half mast and those three children and all the children that came before only get thoughts and prayers.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
This says nothing about society any more than any other shooting does.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
I'm not personally in the business of killing people, but situations and circumstances cause people to change what they believe is right and wrong. I do believe that sometimes killing people is a valid route to meaningful change. I don't think this is what happened here, I think some kid got a good shot in and is going to have to deal with the consequences of what his family and country did to him for a while.
Regardless of all of that, I can't help but see this event in context of America. Like you have a bunch of people getting fed crazy shit 24/7, in a society that is so deeply entrenched in gun culture that you physically cannot de-escalate, these things will happen. The fact it happened to a dude that was very publically advocating for people to have rights to firearms, it feels about the same as a person purposely stepping on a rake. Dude kind of did this to himself somewhat.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
Political violence is terrible. Kirk was a piece of shit who helped make political violence inevitable. He got what he deserved, and I'm jubilant at his death, even as I'm devastated at what our country has become.
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I feel the same, are you also a bit autistic? I feel like there's not many people who can just kind of shrug all these things off
Well, I live outside of the US...
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Yes, my thoughts exactly too as a Canadian looking in from the outside. The one thing that is bothering me most of all is how much of a martyr the assassination is making out of him
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I really could care less either way.
My pet peeve is people who say this expression wrong, because it's not only slightly mispronounced, but entirely turned on it's head to mean the exact opposite of its intention. This reversal of meaning seems clear, so I'm not sure why the error is so prolific, though it does seem more of a thing in other countries like the USA, not so much here.
It's "couldn't care less", not "could care less". You're trying to say "I care so little that it is not possible for me to care any less than I do already".
Instead, by saying you "could care less", you are being ambiguous about how much you care, but confirming that you care at least a little bit (or possibly due to the ambiguity it's the most important thing in your life and you care so, so much).
Sorry if I sound grouchy, it's just something that's bugged me for a long time and here at 5am is when I decided to finally say something about it, haha. No shade on you personally though, as the hip youths would say!
I've also noticed that but I just say it that way because as far as I understand, that's the saying shrug
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I've also noticed that but I just say it that way because as far as I understand, that's the saying shrug
It's definitely not the saying. You've heard it wrong or heard your peers saying it wrong. Just apply the slightest bit of critical thinking here.
I could not care less - I couldn't care less - there is no way I could care less than I already do - I don't care at all
I could care less - I could care any amount about the subject, totally ambiguous. Perhaps it's the most important thing in the world to me, therefore I could care less.
Saying it the second way makes you sound like someone who doesn't care about the meaning of their words.
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Yes, my thoughts exactly too as a Canadian looking in from the outside. The one thing that is bothering me most of all is how much of a martyr the assassination is making out of him
Hurst Wessel is the comparison I've seen around, worth a read. Similar circumstances.
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It's definitely not the saying. You've heard it wrong or heard your peers saying it wrong. Just apply the slightest bit of critical thinking here.
I could not care less - I couldn't care less - there is no way I could care less than I already do - I don't care at all
I could care less - I could care any amount about the subject, totally ambiguous. Perhaps it's the most important thing in the world to me, therefore I could care less.
Saying it the second way makes you sound like someone who doesn't care about the meaning of their words.
Or just do a Google search or whatever, or even better, realize that language is fluid and nothing matters
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Or just do a Google search or whatever, or even better, realize that language is fluid and nothing matters
Hey friend your definition agrees with me. Yes language is fluid and I'm not a prescriptivist, but when it becomes the opposite meaning in one generation then it makes communication confusing.
You could say it one way and be understood by everyone or say it the other way and be vague. Which would you prefer?
Honestly, personally, I'm just going to assume someone using it the other way is a little stupid.
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I didn't really know anything about him until after I heard he died. And shortly after that, I heard that three kids died in another school shooting.
I don't give a fuck about Charlie. I'm pissed that he's getting a flag at half mast and those three children and all the children that came before only get thoughts and prayers.
Honor them, ignore him.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
wrote last edited by [email protected]As a UK citizen at the ripe old age of 47, who has always been fairly left wing but has definitely become jaded with all politics and less engaged than ever, I can honestly say I'd never heard of the guy until this week.
However, from widespread media exposure this week, it's hard not to conclude that he was basically one of the many grifters that seem to be riding high in the US. There seems to be club of them who disingenuously tap into the unfocused frustrations of many Americans, charismatically providing easy answers and appointing blame, seemingly motivated by nothing more than their own self-interest.
That said, I can't take pleasure in seeing someone die. I haven't and will not watch the video. I don't think it's a healthy to be entertained watching another humans life brutally end.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
People get killed all the time, he isn't special and you would be too emotionally drained if you got upset over every death that ever happened.
I actually don't care about Kirk, or any murdered politician for that matter. I'll laugh at the memes because comedy is pretty much all we have left to cope with the shit state of many things.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
Here's a timeline to consider
Trump dined with Fuentes - the groyper king. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-00070825
Kirk urged trump to release the files and everything https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-files-update-charlie-kirk-trump-message-2099999
loomer (a groyper) says kirk is unloyal https://www.rawstory.com/charlie-kirk-laura-loomer/
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's good entertainment.
As usual, morons on both sides of the fence miss the forest for the trees.
Charlie was a mouthpiece of the ruling class. His whole purpose was to sow division to distract the working class from how it's being exploited by their rulers.
It's good that he's gone, because that's one fewer distraction. It's bad that people, on both sides, still don't realize why it's necessary for people like him to be gone.
We should also be aiming higher. The richer, the better.
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I feel bad for everything his family has had to endure over the past 31 long years. I hope they find comfort in the knowledge that his days of actively bringing shame upon them are over and they can start putting the whole Charlie debacle behind them.
Was his family opposed to his views?
In my experience, people like Charlie come to be specifically because their family is there to help them along the way.
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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.
What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.
°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.
°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?
°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?
I'm genuinely interested in what you all think
I think these people publicly celebrating are being incredibly inconsiderate. I hate the guy just as much them, but the man has a wife, kids, and friends who are mourning. Have some empathy, respect them, and if you’re going to celebrate a man dying, do so in private.
