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    I get that it looks risky, but I don't really see a problem here. The platform is in undisturbed water, no waves, no sudden changes. If the platform is strong enough, which it seems to be to me, it will not easily tip over.

    I've worked on a few lifts like that, and if you manage to tip one over I can only say that you were either really stupid or you were trying to do it. All the weight is at the bottom. They are very stable.

    The only way to make them fall over is if your floor is not level while driving. Driving is out of the question in this picture, and as long as both guys stay in the fork lift the center of gravity will not change much.

    So the platform will not move, the lift will not move, basically they are fine.

    If something was to happen you're fucked though.

    And different solutions are available. I've personally been in a different lift that had an arm so the lift would be a the side of the pool and the part where I was standing was elevated above the water. That probably would be a better solution, if you have enough space to get one of those lifts in.

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      there is absolutely nothing i find appealing about going to a theme park that's been crammed onto a boat and being surrounded by rich tourists and screaming kids. and of course someone picks up some exotic flu strain on an excursion and now the entire ship is sick.

      thanks, but i'll pass

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      Not even just exotic. They're known for being germ vectors, in general.

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        I get that it looks risky, but I don't really see a problem here. The platform is in undisturbed water, no waves, no sudden changes. If the platform is strong enough, which it seems to be to me, it will not easily tip over.

        I've worked on a few lifts like that, and if you manage to tip one over I can only say that you were either really stupid or you were trying to do it. All the weight is at the bottom. They are very stable.

        The only way to make them fall over is if your floor is not level while driving. Driving is out of the question in this picture, and as long as both guys stay in the fork lift the center of gravity will not change much.

        So the platform will not move, the lift will not move, basically they are fine.

        If something was to happen you're fucked though.

        And different solutions are available. I've personally been in a different lift that had an arm so the lift would be a the side of the pool and the part where I was standing was elevated above the water. That probably would be a better solution, if you have enough space to get one of those lifts in.

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        How are they going to get out of the lift and how will they get the lift off fhe mattress?

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          If it works, it's not hybris, is it?

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          You say it’s working but they haven’t yet gotten back out of the lift nor have they gotten the lift back out of the water.

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            How are they going to get out of the lift and how will they get the lift off fhe mattress?

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            If they have to get out of the lift, it is at it's lowest position. That means all the weight is in the middle of the platform and the weight of 2 man will not be enough to make the platform flip over.

            They will have to jump to the side I suppose. Just step off. Maybe the can even paddle the platform around, I imagine there is at least one piece of rope to manipulate the platform when there is nobody on it.

            The lift will go off, the same way it came on. Probably some sort of crane. I cannot imagine they just drove it on there, but maybe they did. Maybe even a forklift with long forks. There are forklifts that could probably handle that kind of weight so far away on the forks.

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              If they have to get out of the lift, it is at it's lowest position. That means all the weight is in the middle of the platform and the weight of 2 man will not be enough to make the platform flip over.

              They will have to jump to the side I suppose. Just step off. Maybe the can even paddle the platform around, I imagine there is at least one piece of rope to manipulate the platform when there is nobody on it.

              The lift will go off, the same way it came on. Probably some sort of crane. I cannot imagine they just drove it on there, but maybe they did. Maybe even a forklift with long forks. There are forklifts that could probably handle that kind of weight so far away on the forks.

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              This is the type of thing that I look at say this can't possibly work, and the engineer beside me will look at me a little confused and say this can't possibly fail. Sure enough they're usually right. Usually. I still won't be climbing on there.

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                Trust them. They're engineers.

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                With epic skill and epic gear.

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                  This is the type of thing that I look at say this can't possibly work, and the engineer beside me will look at me a little confused and say this can't possibly fail. Sure enough they're usually right. Usually. I still won't be climbing on there.

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                  Well, it's always best to listen to the little voice inside, especially if it says "I might just die here". I completely understand why you would not be climbing on that.

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                    Is this Loss?

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                      And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?

                      Not saying that is the argument you're making/defending. Just don't see a problem with helping people out.

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                      It's not wrong, but a lot of people hate being harassed until they buy something.

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                        With epic skill and epic gear.

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                        But... What the fuck did just happened here? 🎶

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                          It's not wrong, but a lot of people hate being harassed until they buy something.

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                          No disagreement here.

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                            Is this Loss?

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                              "If it's stupid but works, it wasn't stupid" doesn't apply to safety or security.

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                              Well, that's what I said, just with an attempt at humor

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                                That looks to me like a drawing by the design/architecture team, but there is a real boat like that and it's a pretty close match for the design. Here's a video with drone footage from the launch; 1:39 you can see a view kinda similar to the drawing.

                                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bw4_PUtqdF4

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                                Does it have the slides that terminate over the ocean?

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                                  That's plenty of time for a quick visit though?

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                                  I don't know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn't enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn't tell you much about the place.
                                  I suppose it's another way to visit, but it's odd to me.

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                                    oh my god first ever recorded event of ASCII art in lemmy

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                                    Letters, punctuation, and spaces are just about the only ASCII in that art.

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                                      I don't know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn't enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn't tell you much about the place.
                                      I suppose it's another way to visit, but it's odd to me.

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                                      You're there to visit it, you don't need to learn the whole city lol

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                                        And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?

                                        Not saying that is the argument you're making/defending. Just don't see a problem with helping people out.

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                                        I was just explaining a misunderstanding, that being heckler vs hawker... I think you've replied to the wrong comment?

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                                          I was just explaining a misunderstanding, that being heckler vs hawker... I think you've replied to the wrong comment?

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                                          I think I did too. Please accept my apologies!

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