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The Fediverse is Quiet — Let's Fix That! (Slides + Recording)

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  • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    For those who were unable to attend this past weekend's Social Web After Hours event held at HackerSpace Brussels (@[email protected]), I've uploaded a re-recording of my presentation, which you can check out here! Sadly, there was no live recording of the rather lively session, so you'll just have to take my word for it 😸

    https://spectra.video/w/xwCSYfZh1mJY64zJ9GngbE

    If you're looking for just the slides, you can get them here as well 👇

    • Slides (PDF warning)

    Thank you @[email protected] for the PeerTube instance!

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    • andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @julian @HSBXL @deadsuperhero thanks for doing this! I’ll try to do a recording of my talk later as well. The room vibes throughout the evening were great 👍🏻

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        @julian @HSBXL @deadsuperhero really glad to see you upload these. Wanted to share them with some folks

        Unrelated here's a quick bug report: seems like @phanpy is picking up some unsupported attachment on your post

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        • liaizon@social.wake.stL [email protected]

          @julian @HSBXL @deadsuperhero really glad to see you upload these. Wanted to share them with some folks

          Unrelated here's a quick bug report: seems like @phanpy is picking up some unsupported attachment on your post

          deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @[email protected] @[email protected] Seeing the same thing in Akkoma, not sure what it is.

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          • deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.orgD [email protected]

            @[email protected] @[email protected] Seeing the same thing in Akkoma, not sure what it is.

            chillicampari@layer8.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @julian it was a great talk! I'm glad you re-recorded it.

            @deadsuperhero @liaizon it looks like the same issue is showing up using Elk (via browser/desktop). The best I can tell is that it's a wonky preview attempt of the pdf link.

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            • silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @julian

              >Contexts can provide a thorough, comprehensive way to backfill an entire conversation. This is the biggest step we can take towards tackling the “fediverse is quiet” problem.

              Sure, context is useful for backfilling, but is it the biggest step? I don't think so.

              With FEP-1b12 or Containers, conversations are synced by default, so there is no need for backfilling. This is more efficient too: you don't need to retrieve context periodically to get an up-to-date view.

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                @julian

                >Contexts can provide a thorough, comprehensive way to backfill an entire conversation. This is the biggest step we can take towards tackling the “fediverse is quiet” problem.

                Sure, context is useful for backfilling, but is it the biggest step? I don't think so.

                With FEP-1b12 or Containers, conversations are synced by default, so there is no need for backfilling. This is more efficient too: you don't need to retrieve context periodically to get an up-to-date view.

                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @[email protected] when discussed with Nutomic about this, I made the case that 1b12 is excellent for synchronization. 7888 (and 171b, etc.) are good for backfill, in cases where there is no 1b12 implementation available.

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                  @julian FEP-171b has its own way to backfill, also via context, but it is a collection of activities (such as Create).
                  I am currently trying to figure out how to make Containers compatible with NodeBB and others.

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