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  • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

    I also love explaining things and get excited when it's an area i know about, and then got accused of mansplaining. seeing that many men in these comments suffered the same fate, maybe some women could become more chill lol

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    I hate explaining things, there's for sure other people out there and even in YouTube that can explain it better. So instead I just give sarcastic answers and hope they don't believe me. I do think mansplaining is hilarious though, and will mock it sometimes by doing it back to whoever started. But I don't like getting hit so I don't do it so often anymore

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      Funny, you cut off the important bit right before that quote where the man cut her off as she was about to explain her most recent book. Here’s a bit of context:

      “She began to talk about her most recent, on Eadweard Muybridge, whereupon the man cut her off and asked if she had "heard about the very important Muybridge book that came out this year"—not considering that it might be (as, in fact, it was) Solnit's book.

      See how the context changes the situation? She was already speaking, and the man cut her off, assuming she was unaware, and explained to her something that he would have learned to be unnecessary if he had simply treated her as a conversation partner to be listened to, rather than something to be narrated at.

      I can already tell I’m not going to be able to convince you, though. In order to support your point (and, perhaps, avoid any self-reflection) you’ve ignored nuance - generally bad practice when talking about the intricacies of social interaction. Certainly, men monologue to men, men monologue to women, women monologue to men, and women monologue to women, but much like when people equivocate the fear of sexual assault to the fear of false accusations, the thing being ignored is the amount that these things happen; they are not equivalent.

      To be absolutely clear: I am a man. An autistic man, even. One who loves to learn, loves to info-dump, and has more female friends than male. In all my time info-dumping to my female friends, I have never once been accused of mansplaining, because I ask before I explain to ascertain their knowledge, and I actually listen when they speak.

      Funny how that works.

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      I genuinely don’t understand what difference it makes. She began to explain, implying she hadn’t said she was the author of the book he had locked and loaded. He cut her off. This could either be excitement on the topic they both had interest in or a slightly rude faux pas.

      If she said “yep, heard of that book — I wrote it” and he said “you can’t be the author — you’re a woman” the misogyny would be obvious.

      The fact that one person cut another off in one conversation doesn’t mean every time a man opens his mouth he’s “mansplaining”. Or maybe it does, since the definition seems to mean whatever the speaker wishes it to be. Bringing me back to my first post.

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      • sharkfucker420@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

        Unfortunately I am autistic and explaining something I think is cool. Only it gets interpreted as condescension 😞

        Its not always but its often enough

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        As someone with friends and family on the spectrum, my best tip:

        Take a moment to breathe when you've completed a thought related to what you're explaining, and look at the other person to see if they have information to share, questions, or just to express what they know.

        This helped a few folks pace themselves, and the break for others they believe helped in not appearing condescending.

        Hope this helps!

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        • sharkfucker420@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

          Unfortunately I am autistic and explaining something I think is cool. Only it gets interpreted as condescension 😞

          Its not always but its often enough

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          Noone ever really grows up, some people are just better at hiding it.

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            What I picture in my head when I hear the term manspreading is the guy on every bus or subway who is sitting in a middle seat with legs spread wide. It could also be arms around the backs of the surrounding chairs.

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            You know men tend to be larger than women?

            I had a live-in partner complain that all the clothes in the laundry basket were mine, implying she was doing most of the laundry. I looked. We wore the same amount of clothes, mine were just bigger, taking a larger volume.

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              I would like to know more about this Vagina Devil Magic...

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                "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

                Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

                Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

                Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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                If you don't do it, then don't worry. The term doesn't apply to you.

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                  "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

                  Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

                  Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

                  Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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                  And yes, women can mansplain

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                    If you don't do it, then don't worry. The term doesn't apply to you.

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                    No, it applies to "men", and I identify as one.

                    That's like whenever racists say shit like "hey did you know 50% of crimes are committed by 13% of the population?", a black person calling out the racism, and then being dismissed by saying "well if you don't commit crimes they aren't talking about you".

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                      "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

                      Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

                      Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

                      Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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                      I've already heard the term "gaysplaining" unironically more than once in the bisexual sphere to call out gay people that try to gaslight bi people into thinking that they're not really bi.

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                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                        I've already heard the term "gaysplaining" unironically more than once in the bisexual sphere to call out gay people that try to gaslight bi people into thinking that they're not really bi.

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                        Sounds like a conversation that devolved into generalization and prejudice, treating each other as symbols of their identifies rather than individuals.

                        I'm sure it happens. Tons of bigoted shit happens. That doesn't make it okay.

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                          If you don't do it, then don't worry. The term doesn't apply to you.

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                          The problem is when people assume you're mansplaining just because you're a man explaining something.

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                            The meme: A dude condescendingly explaining something to a woman.

                            The comments: Men patting each other on the back for saying it's okay to explain things.

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                            Looks more like a woman being proud of being a dick.

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                              gotta love how every time there is a woman voiceing an opinion thats critizising men just in the slightest, the comments are filled makeing sure we know "bUT Not aLL MeN"

                              hot take: if you feel the need to defend yourself from such takes, maybe its time for some self-reflection 🙂

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                              Then don't use "all men" in that opinion...

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                                "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

                                Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

                                Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

                                Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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                                Anyone can "mansplain," so better to say "womansplain," "non-binarysplain," etc. as applicable.

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                                  I'm not mansplaining I'm tism info dumping. If you want to patronize me go for it. I'll keep going

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                                    Why would it be ok to be condescending towards a toddler?

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                                      Anyone can "mansplain," so better to say "womansplain," "non-binarysplain," etc. as applicable.

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                                      English already haz gender-neutral words for this. For an adjective, we have "condescending". For a verb, we have pontificate, garage, bloviate, bluster, rant, etc.

                                      Language changes and evolves over time, so we could also make a new word for this phenomenon. "Mansplaining" is unnecessary gendered slur.

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                                        Why would it be ok to be condescending towards a toddler?

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                                        doesn't say that

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                                          They already knew everything you had to say?! War experts out there I guess

                                          1 “fun” fact if you got it, maybe one of the less bloody/violent ones 😇

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                                          I knew about this before a bit, however in the museum they have a few bits dedicated to what information we have of Sophie Scholl and the White Rose resistance attempt.
                                          As the Nazis tried vehemently to erase evidence of dissent, amongst other things of course, the story of Scholl's attempt at gathering resistance has survived - despite her expected demise.

                                          I have not read up on my History in many years, however it's often a short yet symbolic read to the persistence some humans have shown in the face of terror. I do recommend it.

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