So proud!
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Honestly I think everyone would be happy with this is everyone did it but sadly often times people let their egos get too big and they have to brag about it and make the other person feel bad.
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The meme: A dude condescendingly explaining something to a woman.
The comments: Men patting each other on the back for saying it's okay to explain things.
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Asking someone to explain something is none of those things.
Oh yeah you are 100% right. It was the rest of the comment.
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Mansplaining is when you explain a subject to a woman as if she doesn't know it, when she would be fully expected to know it. An example would be a man without an astrophysics degree explaining astrophysics with condescension to a woman with an astrophysics degree. It sounds silly but I've seen it happen, more often than not it happens online though because terminally online people tend to be more condescending.
Manspreading is more often when dudes intentionally take up more sitting space than they clearly need in public when it's obvious there is enough space for additional people. Often it's a lack of self awareness.
Male gaze is the way women are most often portrayed in visual arts and media from a heterosexual, masculine perspective, often objectifying them as sexual objects for the pleasure of the male viewer. It suggests that media is often constructed and consumed from a male perspective.
Hell, even a lot of sexualization of men is from the male perspective. Having spoken to a lot of women about how they experience attraction, most aren't very interested in the hypermasculine view of the male "ideal body" and are far more interested in certain behaviors and mannerisms, or even just the look of their face and hands, rather than everything else.
I'm writing this not as an argument, but as taking your questions in good faith. I hope it was in good faith.
What I picture in my head when I hear the term manspreading is the guy on every bus or subway who is sitting in a middle seat with legs spread wide. It could also be arms around the backs of the surrounding chairs.
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Mansplaining is when you explain a subject to a woman as if she doesn't know it, when she would be fully expected to know it. An example would be a man without an astrophysics degree explaining astrophysics with condescension to a woman with an astrophysics degree. It sounds silly but I've seen it happen, more often than not it happens online though because terminally online people tend to be more condescending.
Manspreading is more often when dudes intentionally take up more sitting space than they clearly need in public when it's obvious there is enough space for additional people. Often it's a lack of self awareness.
Male gaze is the way women are most often portrayed in visual arts and media from a heterosexual, masculine perspective, often objectifying them as sexual objects for the pleasure of the male viewer. It suggests that media is often constructed and consumed from a male perspective.
Hell, even a lot of sexualization of men is from the male perspective. Having spoken to a lot of women about how they experience attraction, most aren't very interested in the hypermasculine view of the male "ideal body" and are far more interested in certain behaviors and mannerisms, or even just the look of their face and hands, rather than everything else.
I'm writing this not as an argument, but as taking your questions in good faith. I hope it was in good faith.
Manspreading is more often when dudes intentionally take up more sitting space than they clearly need in public when it's obvious there is enough space for additional people. Often it's a lack of self awareness.
I feel like doing it intentionally and doing it because you're lacking self awareness are sorta at odds
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I've had this experience before. I was excited to talk about what I learnt whilst volunteering for a war museum, and wanted to share my excitement with people. Got accused of Mansplaining. It really was upsetting, since I was just talking about a lovely experience and didn't want to upset nor offend anyone...
They already knew everything you had to say?! War experts out there I guess
1 “fun” fact if you got it, maybe one of the less bloody/violent ones
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My partner has taught/trained me to ask "would you like to hear more?" before I info-dump on him.
Example:
Me: "at work today I've been playing around with configuration settings for Primo VE, specifically the search scopes... Um... would you like to hear more?"Response: "I'm glad you have an interesting problem at work and no, no thank you."
You are a starship troopers propaganda video. Would you like to know more?
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Can someone mansplain mansplaining to me? It seems like any time someone with a beard inhales sharply.
Kind of like how manspreading is men sitting down.
And the male gaze is men looking at things.
Mansplaining is when a man & woman have a conversation, he catches a puzzled look on her face with prolonged silence, he proceeds to elaborate & try to clarify the last topic to clear up confusion so she can participate, thereby pisses her off, because she already understood & the man didn't mindread.
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Unfortunately I am autistic and explaining something I think is cool. Only it gets interpreted as condescension
Its not always but its often enough
I definitely get the same sorta thing, you just gotta practice managing it. Usually I’ll say something like “I have many thoughts and don’t wanna mansplain but I don’t know your familiarity…” and then ramble. Context is important, and a lot of people also don’t know where we’re at or where we’re coming from so if we just bust down the door and start telling them how something is then that’s kinda on us to manage.
And if they don’t take the clear opportunities I give them to slow me down and then say I should have somehow known better I ask them how on earth I was supposed to know what they never shared. People will often chill out after that.
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gotta love how every time there is a woman voiceing an opinion thats critizising men just in the slightest, the comments are filled makeing sure we know "bUT Not aLL MeN"
hot take: if you feel the need to defend yourself from such takes, maybe its time for some self-reflection
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You are a starship troopers propaganda video. Would you like to know more?
Yep! I even use that tone of voice with him.
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Manspreading is more often when dudes intentionally take up more sitting space than they clearly need in public when it's obvious there is enough space for additional people. Often it's a lack of self awareness.
I feel like doing it intentionally and doing it because you're lacking self awareness are sorta at odds
wrote last edited by [email protected]Fair enough, let's just assume most of them lack self awareness, because that makes the most sense.
There are definitely some cases where it's intentional, I've definitely experienced dudes trying to take my space on the bus by pushing into my leg that is currently existing in my chair space.
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I explain basic things to anyone if they sound or act like they don't know.
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What I picture in my head when I hear the term manspreading is the guy on every bus or subway who is sitting in a middle seat with legs spread wide. It could also be arms around the backs of the surrounding chairs.
Yeah pretty much the jist of it.
Tbf I see teenagers do it a lot too but their brains aren't fully developed yet.
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My partner has taught/trained me to ask "would you like to hear more?" before I info-dump on him.
Example:
Me: "at work today I've been playing around with configuration settings for Primo VE, specifically the search scopes... Um... would you like to hear more?"Response: "I'm glad you have an interesting problem at work and no, no thank you."
Then she spent two hours talking about every single thing she experienced at work and her remarks on them...
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Asking someone to explain something is none of those things.
BTW I think you are a fine fella. Sorry I didn't say that more. I wish ya the best.
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The meme: A dude condescendingly explaining something to a woman.
The comments: Men patting each other on the back for saying it's okay to explain things.
People on each side of the issue can have different opinions on it. Maybe the solution is in the middle...
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Men do mensplain but they do it most if you are a week "cute girl". In my line of work I have to be kind of a bitch (not asshole just not girly), if I'm cute I won't get anything done. Nobody mensplain anything to a bitch. They roll their eyes and just do whater you want fast so you cam go away.
In my private life I'm usually the one womensplaing
Do what I say, not what I do...
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"Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.
Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?
Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?
Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?
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My SO put it perfectly when I apologized for talking too much, she said "it's ok, I know you like to listen to yourself"
And honestly, I do talk to myself when nobody's around and there isn't a huge difference in what I'm saying in either context.
I'm not having a conversation with myself, I'm just kind of thinking out loud.