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thoughts on Klar served by the Guardian project after "recent" changes to Mozilla's approach to privacy

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    “Private browsing” on most browsers isn’t comprehensive or easy to use. Klar is next-level privacy that’s free, always on and always on your side — because it’s backed by Mozilla, the non-profit that fights for your rights on the Web.

    i was using Focus as a quick less secure browser that doesn't break official websites. I uninstalled it after Mozilla's changes to terms of use/service.

    Is Klar, like IronFox, a cleaned fork? If not, why is Guardian project serving it as next level privacy?

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      “Private browsing” on most browsers isn’t comprehensive or easy to use. Klar is next-level privacy that’s free, always on and always on your side — because it’s backed by Mozilla, the non-profit that fights for your rights on the Web.

      i was using Focus as a quick less secure browser that doesn't break official websites. I uninstalled it after Mozilla's changes to terms of use/service.

      Is Klar, like IronFox, a cleaned fork? If not, why is Guardian project serving it as next level privacy?

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      Waiting for its ios port. Otherwise, sticking with Firefox Focus

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        “Private browsing” on most browsers isn’t comprehensive or easy to use. Klar is next-level privacy that’s free, always on and always on your side — because it’s backed by Mozilla, the non-profit that fights for your rights on the Web.

        i was using Focus as a quick less secure browser that doesn't break official websites. I uninstalled it after Mozilla's changes to terms of use/service.

        Is Klar, like IronFox, a cleaned fork? If not, why is Guardian project serving it as next level privacy?

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        Klar has telemetry disabled by default, Focus has telemetry enabled by default.

        About:config is disabled in both, so you cannot change anything that is not available in the settings.

        It is an official version of Firefox, not a fork. It generally does not break things as it is basically Focus without telemetry.

        It is not comparable to Mull (rip) or Ironfox

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          Klar has telemetry disabled by default, Focus has telemetry enabled by default.

          About:config is disabled in both, so you cannot change anything that is not available in the settings.

          It is an official version of Firefox, not a fork. It generally does not break things as it is basically Focus without telemetry.

          It is not comparable to Mull (rip) or Ironfox

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          IronFox is my default now, after Mull. The question is not to compare the two browsers, but just the approach.

          I need a second "delete data on quit" browser with JavaScript and cookies enabled for the obligatory official sites 😕

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            IronFox is my default now, after Mull. The question is not to compare the two browsers, but just the approach.

            I need a second "delete data on quit" browser with JavaScript and cookies enabled for the obligatory official sites 😕

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            Focus and Klar are basically the same, except for the telemetry. Iirc Klar was created because having telemetry would possibly run afoul of some German data privacy laws.

            Klar would be the pick of the two. You could also use a different fork that you used like focus where you set it to only use private browsing and delete data/cookies etc on quit.

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              Focus and Klar are basically the same, except for the telemetry. Iirc Klar was created because having telemetry would possibly run afoul of some German data privacy laws.

              Klar would be the pick of the two. You could also use a different fork that you used like focus where you set it to only use private browsing and delete data/cookies etc on quit.

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              installed it after your previous comment and it's, like you wrote, basically Focus.

              netGuard shows that Klar is constantly trying to connect to firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com & bc.googleusercontent.com

              i guess it's for the "Phishing and Malware Protection" 🤷

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                installed it after your previous comment and it's, like you wrote, basically Focus.

                netGuard shows that Klar is constantly trying to connect to firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com & bc.googleusercontent.com

                i guess it's for the "Phishing and Malware Protection" 🤷

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                Yes, that should be it. Firefox runs its own version of SafeBrowsing, but it falls back to Google if it sees something that is not in its database. Then it sends a hash to Google to check it.

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