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I haven't "attacked" anyone. Just stated that they're wilfully ignorant, which is true. However if when you were looking around for all of those comments you were paying attention, you would've seen people throwing out extremely unnecessary and vulgar personal attacks at me.
You keep asking me for evidence, and I keep telling you I don't have any. I'm not writing a fucking college dissertation, it's an internet comment. Since this conversation is going nowhere, and since you continue to sealion me with this nonsense after I've asked you to stop several times, you're going to be blocked as well. Have a nice evening.
You don't know what words mean! You just throw out "sealion", "false equivalency", "bad faith"! Just buzz words!
Get the fuck out of here already!! Absolute child blocking everyone. Please, for everyone's sake, delete your account and get the fuck off Lemmy. Go back to reddit, please
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Discover FOSS software. Just be sure to toss some donations to your favorite projects.
Imma be straight up. Donations are cool but not a lot of people give donations. partly because some are skint (i used to be) but mainly because people just don't know.
i feel like the biggest issue that foss projects face is the fact that they don't ask for donations in a way that the average user knows about. Kde sends a notification around christmas asking for donos. I haven't seen any other foss app do anything similar.
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That shit better not happen to Plex, I'll never buy software again, will pirate the fuck out of it for this reason alone.
That would be punishing yourself compared to switching to Jellyfin, though.
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How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.
The false equivalency is not that the two aren't comparable products, the false equivalency is that they have those problems at similar rates, because they don't.
You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples
My reasoning is experience. FOSS has this reputation among most people. Only people who are willfully ignorant can't see it. I could give you examples all day but it'd just be cherry-picking and I'm sure you would remain unswayed. Feel free to ignore me, I'm just saying what it is.
I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though...
I don't avoid proprietary solutions that do a better job
That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.
That's not what a false equivalency is, but ok.
FOSS has this reputation among most people.
Most people don't have any clue what FOSS is. They just want software, and if its free and works, they'll like it.
I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though...
I provided two reasons in my post. Superior marketing and professional support.
That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.
Ok, but thats not what you went on to say.
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I'm so sick of that person. All over the tech community with horrible and downright stupid takes. Just a while ago they were complaining about bloatware installed on android phones, but then fails to see your point about proprietary software also being useless.
They'll block you if you point that out and call it "harassment".
Yep, didnt make a single sensible point. Just anecdotes and irrelevant examples. I'm bad at ignoring an argument so I went and blocked lol
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Foss lives and thrives on passion and unpaid contributions. That can be fine but it’s also necessary to actually purchase software so that individuals or small groups can get paid.
How do I even compensate the random programmer who spend 30 hours fixing a bug on a foss project I use?
Especially when in the context of this post which is about software you can buy to own there should be some willingness to spend money on software.
Correct. While there are many (good) programs available for no money, that is charity based on desire and passion.
Free in FOSS isn't about price, it's about freedom.
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Imma be straight up. Donations are cool but not a lot of people give donations. partly because some are skint (i used to be) but mainly because people just don't know.
i feel like the biggest issue that foss projects face is the fact that they don't ask for donations in a way that the average user knows about. Kde sends a notification around christmas asking for donos. I haven't seen any other foss app do anything similar.
A lot of them have a donate button on their download page.
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That would be punishing yourself compared to switching to Jellyfin, though.
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Correct. While there are many (good) programs available for no money, that is charity based on desire and passion.
Free in FOSS isn't about price, it's about freedom.
Which is great. But... This whole thread is in response to a comment that states to "never buy software"
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Hardware accel just seems completely broken, that and downloads to the app.
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"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things and the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.
So what does "ownership" mean then for software?
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Happened to me with the Android anti-theft app Cerberus, AND with the PlayOn TV recording service.
We should make a shame/do not trust list.
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Donate when you can tho
And contribute if you can't.
For non-programmers: Yes, reporting bugs, writing docs, and answering questions is contributing.
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So what does "ownership" mean then for software?
"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
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"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
You were arguing that having control over something (as in being able to modify it and resell it) isn't a requirement for the thing's ownership?
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You were arguing that having control over something (as in being able to modify it and resell it) isn't a requirement for the thing's ownership?
"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
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Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time
This is just a false equivalency. Do both of those things happen in both cases? Sure. Does it happen WAY more often with FOSS? Also yes. Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven't been updated in years.
Paid software is typically not something someone does in their free time to fill a resume for a real job. It's something they are able to dedicate real time to because it pays their bills and they have obligations to their paying users. They can also hire other people who also gets their bills paid and have similar obligations.
Neither one is inherently better.
Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven’t been updated in years.
"not updated in years" didn't used to be considered a bad thing. Why is it one now?
If something works well for me as it is and runs locally in a way that doesn't open itself up to remote exploits, I don't necessarily need it to keep changing all the time. Even if it would be nice if it had more features, the software works fine for me as it is. I don't need those updates now or this year.
The only true "need" is that it doesn't stop working for me when the various platforms or compilers change. I used to use a Python2 program, and I could keep using it for about a decade after its last update, but eventually I did need to move past it because Python3 had long since replaced it and distros stopped shipping Python2. A year or two of no updates it's nothing.
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"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.
Then what are? Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?
If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.
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the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.
Then what are? Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?
If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.
Then what are?
"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?
Why would they be?
If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.
You can "interpret" whatever meaning you want, that doesn't make it accurate.
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