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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    if you want updated versions you need to keep paying periodically.

    But you can continue using the older version, yes?

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    Sure, as long as it works. Software has a tendency to stop working on newer OS:es or become subject to security exploits though.

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      I've bought way too much software that suddenly abandons their product to launch a new subscription based version.

      I'd rather choose FOSS than anything payed.

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      I boycott anything that has to be paid.

      I donate regularly to FOSS projects (that I use).

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      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

        Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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        Good enough. Now tell me where it is made and you can call it perfect.

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          Software maintenance does cost a lot, it's a full time job. Most people doesn't pay foss or any at all ( winrar or total commander case ). Most people won't be able to maintain or adjust foss on their own... Foss doesn't work forever ( it's a pain to deeply depend on foss which stops being maintained ). It's a reality that 1 year fallback license is necessary evil

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          I prefer the model where you buy updates if you want or need them

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          • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

            Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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            Discover FOSS software. Just be sure to toss some donations to your favorite projects.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_packages

              Buy never software

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              The idea that software developers should work only for ‘tips’ makes it basically impossible to be an independent developer and be a responsible adult.

              You either become a ‘big boy’ and work for an established software house or make games where people don’t have such a stigma to pay small developers for their talent and effort.

              Workers should be compensated for their work. That means sometimes paying for software.

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                The idea that software developers should work only for ‘tips’ makes it basically impossible to be an independent developer and be a responsible adult.

                You either become a ‘big boy’ and work for an established software house or make games where people don’t have such a stigma to pay small developers for their talent and effort.

                Workers should be compensated for their work. That means sometimes paying for software.

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                This clearly isn't true though, otherwise there wouldn't be so much FOSS software.

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                  Jellyfin, for one, comes to mind

                  Maybe it should be easier for people to donate something to open source software. Maybe on the Linux command line there should be a message from apt that certain projects could use your financial help, of you want to.

                  I doubt many people would be pissed if projects just ask for a small donation

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                  I would welcome a utility that makes it easy to find donate links for my software packages, based on my Apt, Flatpak, and F-Droid package lists.

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    You can also go on the play store and find a huge list of proprietary apps that haven't been updated.

                    I don't need stats, I just actually use software.

                    Also saying that FOSS software is "notoriously low quality" is silly.

                    It's not silly, it's plain to see for anyone that has tried to use it. But it is hilarious to see you try to deny it.

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                    How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

                    Like I said, there is bad FOSS software, but that doesnt make it generally false. People pay for software that doesnt have a good free alternative, they pay for support, and often they will pay to use software that has good marketing because they are simply unaware of the alternatives.

                    I'm not saying all FOSS software is great, but lots of software does have great FOSS options, for example, Firefox, Blender, and Bevy.

                    You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples while also being condescending about it.

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                      Does anyone have any good alternatives to glasswire on windows?

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                      Simplewall.

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                        This clearly isn't true though, otherwise there wouldn't be so much FOSS software.

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                        Foss lives and thrives on passion and unpaid contributions. That can be fine but it’s also necessary to actually purchase software so that individuals or small groups can get paid.

                        How do I even compensate the random programmer who spend 30 hours fixing a bug on a foss project I use?

                        Especially when in the context of this post which is about software you can buy to own there should be some willingness to spend money on software.

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                          How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

                          Like I said, there is bad FOSS software, but that doesnt make it generally false. People pay for software that doesnt have a good free alternative, they pay for support, and often they will pay to use software that has good marketing because they are simply unaware of the alternatives.

                          I'm not saying all FOSS software is great, but lots of software does have great FOSS options, for example, Firefox, Blender, and Bevy.

                          You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples while also being condescending about it.

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                          How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

                          The false equivalency is not that the two aren't comparable products, the false equivalency is that they have those problems at similar rates, because they don't.

                          You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples

                          My reasoning is experience. FOSS has this reputation among most people. Only people who are willfully ignorant can't see it. I could give you examples all day but it'd just be cherry-picking and I'm sure you would remain unswayed. Feel free to ignore me, I'm just saying what it is.

                          I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though...

                          I don't avoid proprietary solutions that do a better job

                          That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.

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                          • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                            Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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                            Until they revoke your lifetime purchase and put the new updates under a sub..

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                            • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                              You can also go on the play store and find a huge list of proprietary apps that haven't been updated.

                              I don't need stats, I just actually use software.

                              Also saying that FOSS software is "notoriously low quality" is silly.

                              It's not silly, it's plain to see for anyone that has tried to use it. But it is hilarious to see you try to deny it.

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                              Lol that's not a false equivalency. You don't get to just decide words mean things they don't because it sounds nice in your head.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time

                                This is just a false equivalency. Do both of those things happen in both cases? Sure. Does it happen WAY more often with FOSS? Also yes. Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven't been updated in years.

                                Paid software is typically not something someone does in their free time to fill a resume for a real job. It's something they are able to dedicate real time to because it pays their bills and they have obligations to their paying users. They can also hire other people who also gets their bills paid and have similar obligations.

                                Neither one is inherently better.

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                                When you look at any app store, you'll find that the many apps that are infested with ads, spyware, malware, and dark patterns are pretty much always proprietary. Conversely, any FOSS app that tries to introduce such garbage would be forked to remove their offending attributes, which makes FOSS apps much higher-quality than proprietary apps in general.

                                You are using false equivalence by incorrectly implying that proprietary software is commercial while FOSS is not. Both FOSS and proprietary software can be sold and commercialized with various monetization strategies. For example, you are currently using Lemmy, a FOSS social network whose development is funded by donations. Nobody here believes that Reddit is better because it is proprietary adware.

                                Free and open source software licenses provide users the right to use, modify, and redistribute the software. Proprietary software does not. That difference makes FOSS inherently better for users than proprietary software.

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                                  How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

                                  Like I said, there is bad FOSS software, but that doesnt make it generally false. People pay for software that doesnt have a good free alternative, they pay for support, and often they will pay to use software that has good marketing because they are simply unaware of the alternatives.

                                  I'm not saying all FOSS software is great, but lots of software does have great FOSS options, for example, Firefox, Blender, and Bevy.

                                  You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples while also being condescending about it.

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                                  I'm so sick of that person. All over the tech community with horrible and downright stupid takes. Just a while ago they were complaining about bloatware installed on android phones, but then fails to see your point about proprietary software also being useless.

                                  They'll block you if you point that out and call it "harassment".

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                                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                    How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

                                    The false equivalency is not that the two aren't comparable products, the false equivalency is that they have those problems at similar rates, because they don't.

                                    You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples

                                    My reasoning is experience. FOSS has this reputation among most people. Only people who are willfully ignorant can't see it. I could give you examples all day but it'd just be cherry-picking and I'm sure you would remain unswayed. Feel free to ignore me, I'm just saying what it is.

                                    I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though...

                                    I don't avoid proprietary solutions that do a better job

                                    That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.

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                                    FOSS has this reputation among most people.

                                    Source? Every commenter here disagrees with you, so it seems like your wild claim is not supported by any evidence.

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                                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                      How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

                                      The false equivalency is not that the two aren't comparable products, the false equivalency is that they have those problems at similar rates, because they don't.

                                      You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples

                                      My reasoning is experience. FOSS has this reputation among most people. Only people who are willfully ignorant can't see it. I could give you examples all day but it'd just be cherry-picking and I'm sure you would remain unswayed. Feel free to ignore me, I'm just saying what it is.

                                      I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though...

                                      I don't avoid proprietary solutions that do a better job

                                      That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.

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                                      Just get off the tech communities. You really don't know anything, you spam stupid takes all over the place. 2k comments in 3 months. Go do anything else, please.

                                      Earlier you were complaining about bloatware on android phones, with a long list of examples from Samsung. Then you go on and attack the quality of FOSS, which you definitely don't use. But somehow paying for proprietary is better because it's more polished and sustainable? While bloatware is a term? This is why I tagged you as "bad faith actor/unintelligent".

                                      Please delete your account.

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                                      • airglow@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                        FOSS has this reputation among most people.

                                        Source? Every commenter here disagrees with you, so it seems like your wild claim is not supported by any evidence.

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                                        Every commenter here disagrees with you

                                        Oh, well if all 2 of you disagree with me, that must mean that I'm wrong and not that you want to lie about it so that more people will use FOSS.

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                                          Until they revoke your lifetime purchase and put the new updates under a sub..

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                                          Happened to me with the Android anti-theft app Cerberus, AND with the PlayOn TV recording service.

                                          We should make a shame/do not trust list.

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