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    Using Jellyfin is a punishment in itself.

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    Hardware accel just seems completely broken, that and downloads to the app.

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      "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things and the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.

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      So what does "ownership" mean then for software?

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        Happened to me with the Android anti-theft app Cerberus, AND with the PlayOn TV recording service.

        We should make a shame/do not trust list.

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        We should make a shame/do not trust list.

        Something like this?

        https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/

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          Donate when you can tho

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          And contribute if you can't.

          For non-programmers: Yes, reporting bugs, writing docs, and answering questions is contributing.

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            So what does "ownership" mean then for software?

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            "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things

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              "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things

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              You were arguing that having control over something (as in being able to modify it and resell it) isn't a requirement for the thing's ownership?

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                You were arguing that having control over something (as in being able to modify it and resell it) isn't a requirement for the thing's ownership?

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                "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things

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                • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                  Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time

                  This is just a false equivalency. Do both of those things happen in both cases? Sure. Does it happen WAY more often with FOSS? Also yes. Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven't been updated in years.

                  Paid software is typically not something someone does in their free time to fill a resume for a real job. It's something they are able to dedicate real time to because it pays their bills and they have obligations to their paying users. They can also hire other people who also gets their bills paid and have similar obligations.

                  Neither one is inherently better.

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                  Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven’t been updated in years.

                  "not updated in years" didn't used to be considered a bad thing. Why is it one now?

                  If something works well for me as it is and runs locally in a way that doesn't open itself up to remote exploits, I don't necessarily need it to keep changing all the time. Even if it would be nice if it had more features, the software works fine for me as it is. I don't need those updates now or this year.

                  The only true "need" is that it doesn't stop working for me when the various platforms or compilers change. I used to use a Python2 program, and I could keep using it for about a decade after its last update, but eventually I did need to move past it because Python3 had long since replaced it and distros stopped shipping Python2. A year or two of no updates it's nothing.

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things

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                    the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.

                    Then what are? Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?

                    If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.

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                      the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.

                      Then what are? Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?

                      If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.

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                      Then what are?

                      "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things

                      Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?

                      Why would they be?

                      If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.

                      You can "interpret" whatever meaning you want, that doesn't make it accurate.

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                      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                        Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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                        I use moneydance for finance, it's $50 for the current version, as of now they give you one free version upgrade, with no requirement to upgrade again if you are satisfied.

                        It has a learning curve and isn't the prettiest but I've been satisfied with managing my transactions and running reports.

                        What it lacks though is a decent budget extension.

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                          A lot of them have a donate button on their download page.

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                          I understand that but think about it. As a Linux user, i don't go to dowload pages. I simply apt install or pacman -S or change my configuration.nix. I will never see that donate button unless I go to the project's page.

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                            I understand that but think about it. As a Linux user, i don't go to dowload pages. I simply apt install or pacman -S or change my configuration.nix. I will never see that donate button unless I go to the project's page.

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                            I go to my favorite software's pages from time to time to see what they're up to.
                            Also, there are a few pieces that I have to visit the site for news when a non-free dependancy updates.

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                              Imma be straight up. Donations are cool but not a lot of people give donations. partly because some are skint (i used to be) but mainly because people just don't know.

                              i feel like the biggest issue that foss projects face is the fact that they don't ask for donations in a way that the average user knows about. Kde sends a notification around christmas asking for donos. I haven't seen any other foss app do anything similar.

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                              I give donations, but way less than I'd like (less in terms of quantity of recipients, not the total financial quantity).

                              What I'd love (not only for FOSS, but also stuff like podcasts and other things I'm donating to regularly) would be a service where I can set a budget and select the software and tools I use and it splits it up automatically.

                              I don't mind donating, but I hate managing it, having dozens of small transactions for it, and I feel like I'm forgetting to donate to like 90+% of the stuff I'm using. Also, with payment provider's fees it's often not worth it to donate <1€ a month, so bundling transactions would be way more effective - for me as the user as well as the recipients who'd get one transaction once a month from said service rather than hundreds of small ones.

                              I never really understood why e.g. Patreon doesn't offer this. You can't expect perks with this because the perks probably will start higher than what's the breakdown of each recipient woild be at a reasonable budget, but the advantage would be that (mostly) everyone would get a piece of your cake, rather than like 5 of the 500 different creators/developers/... you're using content/software of.

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                                Yes, this is the way.

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                                  Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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                                  If you're into music production, FL Studio has a lifetime license that's stood the test of time, and has kept up with or exceeded the capabilities of packages like Reason, Ableton, and Logic. It was the first to really embrace an open VST plugin interface, and has so many options that even after 25 years I haven't yet explored them all. It also comes with a ton of free instruments you can download (basically free DLC).

                                  I picked up a lifetime license for $99 in 2001 when it was Fruity Loops 2.0. Used it for 10 years as it evolved and was amazed that it was keeping up with the big boys. That encourage me to drop another $80 to upgrade to the producer edition to start making professional level tracks - and I was not disappointed.

                                  The best part? The base license is still just $99. Producer edition is still $179.

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                                    If you're into music production, FL Studio has a lifetime license that's stood the test of time, and has kept up with or exceeded the capabilities of packages like Reason, Ableton, and Logic. It was the first to really embrace an open VST plugin interface, and has so many options that even after 25 years I haven't yet explored them all. It also comes with a ton of free instruments you can download (basically free DLC).

                                    I picked up a lifetime license for $99 in 2001 when it was Fruity Loops 2.0. Used it for 10 years as it evolved and was amazed that it was keeping up with the big boys. That encourage me to drop another $80 to upgrade to the producer edition to start making professional level tracks - and I was not disappointed.

                                    The best part? The base license is still just $99. Producer edition is still $179.

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                                    Bruh I'm still using my fls 11 license from the early '00's and it still works. Modern hardware has made it work even better really

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                                      That would be punishing yourself compared to switching to Jellyfin, though.

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                                      This is the best advice. Heed it!

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                                        Bruh I'm still using my fls 11 license from the early '00's and it still works. Modern hardware has made it work even better really

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                                        FL 11 was an amazing piece of software - that's the version that really kicked it into the big leagues.

                                        You should check out the newest version - the download manager is much better since FL Studio 20, and they've got a bunch of new packages and plugins. The Flex plugin is one of the best traditional instrument synths I've ever worked with (think it came in on v 17 or 18).

                                        Even the new version has excellent performance on my 10 year old desktop - you'll love it when you get a chance to upgrade.

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                                          I give donations, but way less than I'd like (less in terms of quantity of recipients, not the total financial quantity).

                                          What I'd love (not only for FOSS, but also stuff like podcasts and other things I'm donating to regularly) would be a service where I can set a budget and select the software and tools I use and it splits it up automatically.

                                          I don't mind donating, but I hate managing it, having dozens of small transactions for it, and I feel like I'm forgetting to donate to like 90+% of the stuff I'm using. Also, with payment provider's fees it's often not worth it to donate <1€ a month, so bundling transactions would be way more effective - for me as the user as well as the recipients who'd get one transaction once a month from said service rather than hundreds of small ones.

                                          I never really understood why e.g. Patreon doesn't offer this. You can't expect perks with this because the perks probably will start higher than what's the breakdown of each recipient woild be at a reasonable budget, but the advantage would be that (mostly) everyone would get a piece of your cake, rather than like 5 of the 500 different creators/developers/... you're using content/software of.

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                                          https://tidelift.com/about/lifter

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