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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • B [email protected]

    Riots don't work unless you smash some windows

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    Smashing your local mom and pop shop will surely show big businesses that your serious /s

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    • ? Guest

      The big problem with PeerTube(PT) is that there is no advertising. As it stands now people are burning money in order to run a PT instance and YouTube(YT) was not at all profitable for many years so it is unlikely that PT ever will be unless people start being willing to pay for people to upload their content to PT. There are ways that you could make PT profitable but it would end up making it into something more similar to Patreon or Nebula.

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      It's harder than that IMO. There are plenty alternatives to many bad things but people just don't care. Just like Linux, for the average person that's got enough shit to deal with, they don't wanna add what they perceive like a difficulty and remove comfort by having to start from scratch with less options. Also, being cut from the mainstream trends, and the general social thing.

      Not speaking for me as I've been mostly degoogling and demicrosofting, even tho I still partly feeling like that for YouTube that's been a very valuable part of my life (yes. I do read and go outside. But please stop suggesting that to people in such threads, that's missing the point), and that I couldn't let go off yet.
      Alternatives rn are either totally devoid of content (at least, the one I like), or paid (didn't gave a shot to Nebula, I'll browse it and see, but it might be hard to beat both my favorite creators I spent years curating, and the fact that you can find anything on any obscure thing)

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      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        Maybe people could read more?

        Nobody needs this endless "content" slop.

        For real people need to get a grip if they can't survive without it. They're addicted.

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        Hmm yes I'll just read about how cool two bullets hitting each other in slowmotion looks. Much better experience than watching it /s

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        • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

          Do you really not know how Google's whole business model works, or are you playing dumb?

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          Why can you not give me a straight answer?

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          • B [email protected]

            That's a you problem. Why are you complaining?

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            yeah thats such a you problem, I cant believe he's complaining about nazis being default on YouTube, that's such an isolated problem that only affects him, and why would anyone complain about nazis anyway aren't they the good guys? - you, apparently

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            • I [email protected]

              Why can you not give me a straight answer?

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              Because, frankly, I don't think you're being honest.

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              • P [email protected]

                And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.

                Look who's laughing now.

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                YouTube on mobile is intolerable these days. NewPipe is the way for Android, though Google is in a constant battle to disable it.

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                • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                  I dont trust anything that isn't fully decentralized. Bluesky is very weird in that regard, its partially centralised. I guess it's better than Twitter (but that is setting the bar very low). I still refrain from using it too often.

                  It will almost certainly have ads in the future and will inevitably go down the path of reddit, twitter and Facebook so I prefer to use something that is completely out of reach of the CEO if something goes to shit.

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                  We need sites that are decentralized and make clear where their funding comes from. In the end, users need to be prepared to fund the services they use to keep them honest.

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                  • Q [email protected]

                    Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there's a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you've clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.

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                    How is discoverability in PeerTube? That was the sticking point for me with PeerTube as with Mastodon last time I looked. It was not easy to discover what's out there.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      How is discoverability in PeerTube? That was the sticking point for me with PeerTube as with Mastodon last time I looked. It was not easy to discover what's out there.

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                      Still not that great, I rely on the companion to redirect me to channels through YouTube.

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                      • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                        what's the best queer friendly instance? :^

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                        I don't know, but here's a list of instances https://joinpeertube.org/instances

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                        • C [email protected]

                          https://nebula.tv/

                          Lots of popular Youtubers are already there, and they strip the sponsor segments out of their content too.

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                          The only way to pay for subscription is with a credit card, no thank you, my culture mostly doesn't use those and I don't have or want one.

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                          • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                            their ads platform ruined the internet

                            Ads were the bane of the internet FAR before Google even fucking existed. lol

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                            and yet somehow google made it worse. Not only are there more ads than ever before, but now it's also a panopticon.

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                              yeah thats such a you problem, I cant believe he's complaining about nazis being default on YouTube, that's such an isolated problem that only affects him, and why would anyone complain about nazis anyway aren't they the good guys? - you, apparently

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                              They are shooting themself in the foot by not letting the algorithm do its job.

                              I did not say nazis are the good guys. Don't put words in my mouth.

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                                Man this whole anticipatory compliance with the fascist regime shit is fucking awful

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                                  I will never understand people who identify as leftist that refuse to understand that under our current economic model people require money to survive and if they do not get money for doing their creative work they might not be able to continue making that work.

                                  It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete. There is a reason that the quality of content available on youtube has gone up massively. Say what you want about the writing but there is no way that something like helluva boss could ever have been made entirely online before youtube.

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                                  It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete

                                  Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.

                                  Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.

                                  "Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention 'sex, gender, or sexual orientation', which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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                                    "Gender" means nothing without context. By a MAGAs definition of gender this policy doesn't protect trans people, for example. We don't know how this rule will be interpreted in practice. Even if you don't consider the intent behind making this change, this is objectively a weaker guarantee of protection than what we had with "gender identity and expression".

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                                    • patatahooligan@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                      "Gender" means nothing without context. By a MAGAs definition of gender this policy doesn't protect trans people, for example. We don't know how this rule will be interpreted in practice. Even if you don't consider the intent behind making this change, this is objectively a weaker guarantee of protection than what we had with "gender identity and expression".

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                                      This is not a legal contract, it's a general guideline for users about what is or isn't acceptable. The intent and spirit of the terms are clear, the only question is whether Google will enforce them not. If the enforcement is crappy, like what Facebook is famous for, it doesn't matter a damn what exact terminology they use in the guidelines.

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                                        While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention 'sex, gender, or sexual orientation', which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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                                        What matters is how this affects enforcement.

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                                          It's time to boycott Google as well now hu? Already ditched their search engine and moved to kagi

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