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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • S [email protected]

    The point is, is that it doesn't matter. Companies are not true allies, they just do whatever earn them the most money and PR

    If it means to become literal Nazis, then they become literal Nazis. And sell the supplies to the gas chambers

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    For sure. It was more of a "yes, and" than disagreement. Profit is such a vile incentive, literally why we can't have nice things.

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    • maggiwuerze@feddit.orgM [email protected]

      Even most people hosting at home, which is already an incredibly small bubble, have only the default upload of something like 40Mbit which is more than plenty for internet usage and thus the only thing most providers supply, since people favour download speeds.
      You usually have to specifically order increased uploads speed, which not enough people do to build something that could serve as an alternative to youtube

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      Idk what to tell you man, I was just saying it would be cool if more people made a personal Peertube. Didn't say everyone and their mother needed to make one, just that it would be nice if as many people as possible could make one. Again, I get that it can be hard, or not possible for most people, but if more people could make one, and made one, that would be cool.

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        Yeah rumble is made by and for Nazis.

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        And Kick is a cesspool gambling-friendly "free speech" Twitch alternative.

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          While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention 'sex, gender, or sexual orientation', which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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          • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

            Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene "anti-woke" trash.

            The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.

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            You're correct but the "He has a plan" one is from Money & Macro, a leftist (Marxist-friendly) economics channel. He's trying to explain the broader strategy behind the tariffs, which (from skimming the video) seems similar to a theory Yanis Varoufakis had as well. I think it's much simpler than that though... I think they're just a sloppy way to appear tough on the world stage while crashing the economy so the ultrarich can pick up the pieces, but that's just me.

            Anyway you're correct about the rest I think.

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            • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

              It's okay. I gotcha so you don't got to ssy it

              Spicehoarder told y'all so!

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              I need someone like you around.

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              • I [email protected]

                That's not an answer to my question.

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                Do you really not know how Google's whole business model works, or are you playing dumb?

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                • K [email protected]

                  It depends on area and trackers. They have a bias but you are also a valid target

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                  I also don't use any other Google services or products and DNS block trackers. And ip hidden too. I have never once watched any of those anti woke videos.

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                    While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention 'sex, gender, or sexual orientation', which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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                    You still think things are run by reasonable people?!

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                    • O [email protected]

                      You still think things are run by reasonable people?!

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                      No, but I think most of the people on Lemmy should know better than that.

                      Looks at Hexbear, .ml, and to some extent Blahaj

                      Oh, who am I kidding.

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                      • Q [email protected]

                        Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there's a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you've clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.

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                        what's the best queer friendly instance? :^

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                        • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                          Hell yeah. Let's hear it for the readers. Let's hear it for footnotes. Let's hear it for references. Let's hear it for bibliographies. Let's hear it for the more in depth ideas that can be explored via text than video or audio.

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                          What do you think keeps something deep being in the form of audio? I get that videos aren't great for research but audio can just be written word spoken so that people that can't read or don't enjoy reading can experience it. I read more than pretty much anyone that I know in my age range and I don't see myself as superior because of it and doing some comes across as frankly pomous and self important.

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                          • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                            dumpstering Tesla and calling it a worthless stock.

                            Oh, so it's just wall street dick sucking and pretending the whole "market" isn't just a rigged game? Counts as right-wing slop to me.

                            Is that the platforms fault?

                            Considering we have a fuck-ton of evidence from research that it isn't just what other people watch that determines it: Yes, it is actually. Sorry these aren't fucking videos so that you'll actually pay attention to them.

                            https://www.ucdavis.edu/curiosity/news/youtube-video-recommendations-lead-more-extremist-content-right-leaning-users-researchers

                            https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3351095.3372879

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                            Maybe take a break dude, no need to be this hostile over some youtube videos

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                              Gonna have to ignore you, bud.

                              Arguing with incompetent people such as yourself is a waste of effort.

                              Goodbye.

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                              Haha, so many butthurt self-righteous people in this thread.

                              Why are you so toxic? I thought Lemmy was supposed to foster better discussions than Reddit but here you are name-calling and talking down to people.

                              Please consider treating people better in the future

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                              • B [email protected]

                                Riots don't work unless you smash some windows

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                                Smashing your local mom and pop shop will surely show big businesses that your serious /s

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                                  The big problem with PeerTube(PT) is that there is no advertising. As it stands now people are burning money in order to run a PT instance and YouTube(YT) was not at all profitable for many years so it is unlikely that PT ever will be unless people start being willing to pay for people to upload their content to PT. There are ways that you could make PT profitable but it would end up making it into something more similar to Patreon or Nebula.

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                                  It's harder than that IMO. There are plenty alternatives to many bad things but people just don't care. Just like Linux, for the average person that's got enough shit to deal with, they don't wanna add what they perceive like a difficulty and remove comfort by having to start from scratch with less options. Also, being cut from the mainstream trends, and the general social thing.

                                  Not speaking for me as I've been mostly degoogling and demicrosofting, even tho I still partly feeling like that for YouTube that's been a very valuable part of my life (yes. I do read and go outside. But please stop suggesting that to people in such threads, that's missing the point), and that I couldn't let go off yet.
                                  Alternatives rn are either totally devoid of content (at least, the one I like), or paid (didn't gave a shot to Nebula, I'll browse it and see, but it might be hard to beat both my favorite creators I spent years curating, and the fact that you can find anything on any obscure thing)

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                                  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                    Maybe people could read more?

                                    Nobody needs this endless "content" slop.

                                    For real people need to get a grip if they can't survive without it. They're addicted.

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                                    Hmm yes I'll just read about how cool two bullets hitting each other in slowmotion looks. Much better experience than watching it /s

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                                      Do you really not know how Google's whole business model works, or are you playing dumb?

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                                      Why can you not give me a straight answer?

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        That's a you problem. Why are you complaining?

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                                        yeah thats such a you problem, I cant believe he's complaining about nazis being default on YouTube, that's such an isolated problem that only affects him, and why would anyone complain about nazis anyway aren't they the good guys? - you, apparently

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                                          Why can you not give me a straight answer?

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                                          Because, frankly, I don't think you're being honest.

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