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Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

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  • E [email protected]

    Sure, so? It's still opt-in, and by default it sends the generated crypto money to creators and websites you visit

    If you don't like it, don't enable it? They're pretty transparent about how it works overall

    They have pretty much abandoned this feature anyways

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    It's opt-in for now, how many times do we have to play this game?

    I'll keep using Firefox with uBo to actually block ads instead of a browser that's running its own ad delivery system.

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    • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

      Do you consider any form of telemetry "spyware"?

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      I don't think taking screenshots of everything you do every few seconds is telemetry.

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      • A [email protected]

        It's opt-in for now, how many times do we have to play this game?

        I'll keep using Firefox with uBo to actually block ads instead of a browser that's running its own ad delivery system.

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        Brave has a built in ad blocker

        at this point you're just hating on brave for nothing

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        • K [email protected]

          nothing is perfect, except the horseshoe crab. however both librewolf and cromite are great with ublock, and ltsc windows has no copilot since companies use that edition.

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          Librewolf is too restrictive and not suitable for everyday browsing. I hate it.

          never tested cromite

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            It doesn't tick #3, hence why I use a Firefox browser as my main. If they had their own rendering engine, I would consider it as my main. But for now, it's my backup in case I need a website that doesn't work on Firefox (i.e. they use something Chrome-specific).

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            Valid point then. We need compatibility with gecko, I always found it better looking than chromium

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            • fijxu@programming.devF [email protected]

              I don't think taking screenshots of everything you do every few seconds is telemetry.

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              It's not, but it's also not spyware - it's local, encrypted, AND optional.

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              • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                Holy shit, what a comment!

                This is about the Smart App Control

                It's not, it's about Recall.

                that takes screenshots periodically to check for “malicious activity”

                It doesn't. Smar App Control does code validation and reputation check. Recall makes screenshots, OCR's them and keeps them in an encrypted vault for the user to interact with.

                built into the OS

                It's not, you can turn both off at any time.

                its basically a glorified keylogger

                It's not, it fundamentally is NOT, because it doesn't log any keystrokes. SAC isn't even in the picture here, while Recall literally only makes screenshots, runs OCR and encrypts that.

                Fuck me, where do you people get this bullshit from? It used to be "oh no, Microsoft will be making screenshots of your activity and sending them to their servers" not so long ago which, while still bullshit, was at least in the same ballpark as what Recall does.

                Now you're throwing SAC into the mix somehow?

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                I worry that the prevalence of ill-informed hot-takes dilutes the validity of complaints, and I appreciate your work here

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                • W [email protected]

                  Honestly it largely is.

                  Personally I like sharing crash reports, but even then, the user should be able to turn that off if you like.

                  Telemetry should be 100% opt-in.

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                  #235

                  Honestly it largely is.

                  I mean, by definition, it isn't.

                  It's anonymous and not malicious in nature. It's a diagnostic and engagement measuring tool.

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                    how the hell do you not?

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                    I don't know, maybe because I understand the definition of "spyware" and "telemetry"?

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                    • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                      It's not, but it's also not spyware - it's local, encrypted, AND optional.

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                      Microsoft is known for making things “optional” at first then eventually forcing it down everyone’s throats. Removing offline accounts is one of them.

                      It’s not so much the technology itself is malware, but its behavior replicates that of malware.

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                      • W [email protected]

                        No way they'd do that though, because then they'd have the mouse and the other members of the content mafia breathing down their necks.

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                        #238

                        It's an image every few seconds. Not that piracy is currently even interested in tech that reencodes the content.
                        And for training, copyrighted stuff is already everywhere; AI tools seem to be limited on the output side rather than raw training data.

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                        • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                          Do you consider any form of telemetry "spyware"?

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                          You consider actual, literal spyware as being merely telemetry?

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                          • redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.comR [email protected]

                            It's an image every few seconds. Not that piracy is currently even interested in tech that reencodes the content.
                            And for training, copyrighted stuff is already everywhere; AI tools seem to be limited on the output side rather than raw training data.

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                            Sure it wouldnt be rational to care about DRM being broken a small amount allowing limited amount of copyright material to be copied.

                            What do you think their response would be?

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                              In this thread something I see a lot on lemmy is happening. Maybe someone can give me a hint on how that happens. The post itself is 90% upvotes, while the comment section is really anti-Brave (for good reasons). Do most upvotes come from people scrolling through without looking at the comment section and those with an opinion on the topic dive into it?

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                              I upvote the post because I support the feature, and would like to see more browsers implement more privacy focused features.

                              I upvote the anti-Brave comments, because fuck Brave.

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                                Just avoid using an “AI” cpu.

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                                  Switching to Hannah Montana Linux made me hear The Best of Both Worlds again.

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                                  I want to use Corey in the House Linux

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                                  • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                                    Honestly it largely is.

                                    I mean, by definition, it isn't.

                                    It's anonymous and not malicious in nature. It's a diagnostic and engagement measuring tool.

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                                    diagnostic

                                    I think it is useful to send crash reports, but the user should have power over it (see: when macOS generates a crash report, it asks the user if they would like to send it)

                                    engagement measuring

                                    That is your data they are taking to make money off of without your consent, and I consider that malicious. There are ways to do that with consent. See: Steam’s annual hardware survey

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                                    • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                                      The post itself is reasonable quality and informative so I find it upvote worthy. If a post is low quality or a shit post then I downvote.

                                      To me the karma system is about quality. Not an "I agree/disagree" button.

                                      For comments I only down vote obvious trolls, bigots/racism etc.

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                                      Well, one could argue if just posting a link with a title is a 'quality' post. But the topic is still worth a discussion so I don't see why it should be downvoted.

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                                      • E [email protected]

                                        Librewolf is too restrictive and not suitable for everyday browsing. I hate it.

                                        never tested cromite

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                                        im pretty sure you can disable a ton of stuff in the options menu

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                                          The fact that the dev behind brave is a homophobe isn't opt in though...

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                                          It's also just another flavor of chromium so it still helps Google maintain their monopoly.

                                          Anyone trying to de-google needs to be using Firefox.

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