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Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

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  • W [email protected]

    diagnostic

    I think it is useful to send crash reports, but the user should have power over it (see: when macOS generates a crash report, it asks the user if they would like to send it)

    engagement measuring

    That is your data they are taking to make money off of without your consent, and I consider that malicious. There are ways to do that with consent. See: Steam’s annual hardware survey

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    That is your data they are taking to make money off of without your consent

    I mean... They're a for-profit company, so literally anything they do is to make money.

    But it's not "my data", it's anonymous. The "engagement" info is in relation to features. That's why some features are removed - because nobody uses them. Or rather: not enough people use them to warrant maintenance.

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    • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      You consider actual, literal spyware as being merely telemetry?

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      What are you talking about now?

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        Microsoft is known for making things “optional” at first then eventually forcing it down everyone’s throats. Removing offline accounts is one of them.

        It’s not so much the technology itself is malware, but its behavior replicates that of malware.

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        Right. So you're all panicking just in case.

        That's what's being swept under the rug as "alarmists being loud".

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        • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

          Recall sits in a secure vault behind BitLocker encryption secured with Windows Hello.

          BitLocker+Windows Hello gets broken through, the world has a much larger problem than some screenshots, because that's the foundation of, like, 80% of enterprise security.

          If you're afraid that an attacker sits on your PC and just waits for you to unlock the vault, then you already have the PC breached to the point where they don't have to do that, they already have access to everything else.

          If you're afraid of the feature in anyway, don't use it.

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          You trust microsoft implicitly no matter what they do, I get it.

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            Now whilst I enjoy all the comments I actually have to add something quickly that explains why this kind of thing happens. I recently worked with a rather old lady to find out why she was having so many issues with technology and stuff. I found out that when she started work in 1986 she was told that the shared password in her department at the local hospital was "password" and so she has used that on everything she can since to remember it... other gems that they used on whole departments included "qwerty" and "123456" and the best one of all "letmeinnow". On whole shared networks of 100+ machines...

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            • K [email protected]

              https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/

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              BUT... most people really don't care about that, they just want to remove ads from facebook or youtube or whatever...
              My clients couldn't care less about what the CEO does, heck they still think facebook is the dogs danglies and youtube is cutting edge plus Netflix is the best streaming service.
              Fighting that is way harder than then trying to explain that some software is worse than others. Heck plenty still use Photoshop because they don't understand that alternatives exist and "everyone at work uses it"

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                You trust microsoft implicitly no matter what they do, I get it.

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                I don't. I read tech specs and security analyses. You just stick your head in the sand whenever someone says "Microsoft", though. It's silly.

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                • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                  Well, you certainly need to be in a specific state of mind for this to make any sense...

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                  I've been dosing too much tux, doc. My mind's all FOSSY.

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                  • A [email protected]

                    The fact that the dev behind brave is a homophobe isn't opt in though...

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                    If you only use software that is created by people you like... well... i guess your only choice will be an abacus...

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                    • E [email protected]

                      They shit on it because just like Mozilla, they made some shit decision by making some shady partnerships, and because the CEO is transphobic/homophobic/can't remember

                      Apart from the usual bullshit and antifeatures it has, it's still a great browser choice, just like Firefox

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                      I just think the idea of your alternative being partially coded by the company you're attempting to avoid is a little stupid. I don't give a shit who he is. I barely give a shit who runs Mozilla.

                      Brave and every other Chromium fork are at the mercy of Google to exist as an alternative to Google, which to me, defeats the point. Every bit of their effort would be better spent rolling their money over to donate to browser development rather than band-aids.

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                        If you only use software that is created by people you like... well... i guess your only choice will be an abacus...

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                        I don't care if I like them. I very much care if I'm making money for people who are actively trying to take away my rights

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                        • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                          The post itself is reasonable quality and informative so I find it upvote worthy. If a post is low quality or a shit post then I downvote.

                          To me the karma system is about quality. Not an "I agree/disagree" button.

                          For comments I only down vote obvious trolls, bigots/racism etc.

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                          To me the karma system is about quality. Not an “I agree/disagree” button.

                          That's how it was meant to be. The original Rediquette from over 15 years ago has:

                          "Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.
                          [Please don't] Downvote an otherwise acceptable post because you don't personally like it. Think before you downvote and take a moment to ensure you're downvoting someone because they are not contributing to the community dialogue or discussion. If you simply take a moment to stop, think and examine your reasons for downvoting, rather than doing so out of an emotional reaction, you will ensure that your downvotes are given for good reasons.
                          "

                          But 99% of people definitely use them as an Agree/Disagree button.

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                          • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                            I don't. I read tech specs and security analyses. You just stick your head in the sand whenever someone says "Microsoft", though. It's silly.

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                            I don't trust them and they have given me sufficient reason over the course of decades not to.

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                            • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                              So you're saying you haven't bothered to read about Recall at all, you just assumed it's going to be enabled by default?

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                              Until a windows update kicks in and somehow turns it on for the world. thanks but no thanks. I'll be disabling this not with a reg key but with local policy or DSC if I have to use a windows machine for personal again.

                              I switched to Linux 2 months ago.

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                              • nokturne213@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

                                That you know of

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                                That sounds like fear mongering, but ok.

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  That sounds like fear mongering, but ok.

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                                  Brave was found to inject crypto referral links into your clicks url auto complete.

                                  https://www.tomsguide.com/news/brave-affiliate-links-autocomplete

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                                    I used some stuff to block my location and windows recall BECAUSE FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!

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                                      This still doesn't make brave a good privacy browser in the long run

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                                      • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                                        Well, you certainly need to be in a specific state of mind for this to make any sense...

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                                        Yep, and you also have to be in a specific state of mind to be okay with "features" like something that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC.

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                                        • V [email protected]

                                          And yet they all have a package manager of some kind to install packages from. It doesn’t have to be Flatpak specifically

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                                          No, but all of them have different repos out of the box, which will lead to confusion when consumers can't find the one they need.

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