Is it me or Ubuntu secretly replaces DEB Firefox with Snap Firefox?

[txtechnician@lemmy.ml]

I battled that for about a year and then ditched Debian based diatros altogether.

OpenSUSE ftw

[juipeltje@lemmy.world]

It's a joke based of the fact that when you type apt install firefox on ubuntu, it will install the snap instead of the deb package, which is what you would expect when you use apt to install something.

[mubelotix@jlai.lu]

Or you can just remove snap. I have been running a up-to-date snap-free ubuntu for 2 years

[limelight79@lemm.ee]

I had it happen a few times. I moved away from Kubuntu as a result.

[noble_bacon@lemmy.ml]

You could have gone pure Debian. There are no snap shenanigans over there

OpenSuse is also a great pick tho!

[inetknght@lemmy.ml]

Why would you use an inferior product? Firefox via Snap is shit but it's still better than any version of Chrome

[mangocats@feddit.it]

I have used both, back and forth for years.

Chrome serves me better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone)

[shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Yeah they've been doing that for a while

[satanclaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I like my operating system to work for me not against me. So no. I'll just never use their shitty spin of Linux and rely on someone that makes a quality distro. Not one that forced it's users to use their pile of shit proprietary nonsense.

[neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I had a friend jump ship from Windows and they said that Debian felt barebones. I personally dont have any problem with it, I use it all the time for VMs, server, and I used to main it. I still think it is missing a lot of user-friendly small things that i never noticed on my own because I am very comfortable with Linux.

[fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com]

They do install less by default, but I'd love to pick their brain to understand what they meant. Oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Linux just isnt transparent about some things. Beginners most have problems when they use a GUI tool and then have to still edit a file. Like dirt example, adding a new drive using GUI disk utility and then sometime in the future disconnecting the drive and being forced into emergency mode.

[caseyweederman@lemmy.ca]

Always was.

[caseyweederman@lemmy.ca]

Firefox now has instructions on their "Debian-based" install section about pinning their repo over Canonical's so that doesn't happen.

Because you're right, Canonical does think so highly of their product that they will constantly attempt to undermine other options against your will.

[caseyweederman@lemmy.ca]

And pin other repos so Ubuntu doesn't replace it. And change the apt.conf rules that alias out apt install commands for the snap install equivalent. And whatever the countermeasure is for the next sneaky ploy they put into action.

[caseyweederman@lemmy.ca]

My guess is: prior to Bookworm, when they started including non-free firmware on installation media by default.

[caseyweederman@lemmy.ca]

I'd suggest the KDE flavor of Debian, then. Its settings manager is divine, and its software management platform ties every other package management system in (apt/dpkg for Debian, yum for Redhat, pacman for Arch, plus flatpak, nixpkg, and even snaps if you absolutely must). By default starting in Plasma 6.0.

[caseyweederman@lemmy.ca]

You can get Gnome on Fedora. It won't have Apt.
Packages will have a different naming scheme based on the maintainers' preferences, even between Debian and Ubuntu (though those are usually pretty minor).
Your muscle memory is gonna trip you up for a while though.