Is it me or Ubuntu secretly replaces DEB Firefox with Snap Firefox?
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That’s why I recommend mint. You have all the benefits of ubuntu but without the corporate stuff. And flatpak instead of snap.
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I swear it was the default already installed. Maybe I'm misremembering.
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Mint never preinstalled the snap. They package their own version of Firefox. I believe they have an agreement with Mozilla.
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Was a kubuntu person for a long time, I haven't really loved the default Ubuntu DE for a while, but that's personal preferences. At the end of the day, use what you like.
I personally like debian (swapped from Kubuntu over time) but keep mint on my thumb drive for family who needs something on older hardware, especially those used to windows it seems to be an easy jump. I love that there are so many options available to people with various levels of prepackaging and configurations.
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Maybe it was that i had to install the snap version (or maybe flatpak?) and uninstall theirs, which fixed the crashes. I thought it was a hardware issue for awhile because it was so random.
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This explains situation.
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Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.
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From a security standpoint? Not even close. From a software-release validation requirement, not even in the same galaxy. If they look the same, it's only due to Clarke's law.
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Debian will have snaps and flatpaks and all the same insecure black-box drek.
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It's not as up to date as other rolling releases, unlike stable it doesn't get security patches right away, it gets frozen for months during the switch from one stable to the next, and in my fairly limited experience it just has more bugs. It's not bad, but it's a testing branch. It's not intended as a daily driver, and it shows.
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In Ubuntu they are the same.
firefox
version1:1snap1-0ubuntu5
is a deb that literally runs the commandsnap install firefox
in the preinst script. Check line 77 infirefox-1snap1/debian/firefox.preinst
in the source tarball: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/1:1snap1-0ubuntu5There's no magic there.
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There is RedHat and SUSE. Which are also the only two certified distros for running corporate/enterprise CAD/CAM/FEA and PLM software. They both provide rock solid stability.
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I feel like snaps are black boxier tho.
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Unfortunately it's my only option at work because my employer wants the security of Ubuntu pro
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I'm a bit of an anarchist so I disagree on principal lol, but I do agree that that would help Linux usurp windows.
My fear is that it would just then become windows within a decade or less. Getting big and institutional may work out. I've just seen a lot of cases go sour.
To me the beauty of Linux is that it is less connected to large impersonal capitalistic structures. That's why it feels different from Windows.
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The installer, last time I tried it, was glitchy and unintuitive.
I used it a few months ago and it was pretty smooth.
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That is not the same thing as "snap and apt Firefox are the same". They just hijacked apt to force snap in.
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So both commands do the same thing... right? I'm not saying snap and apt are the same.
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I'm a relative Linux noob and Manjaro Arch works perfectly for me, no babysitting required.
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You are missing the attribution. The person you are replying to is making a home that canonical says they are the same, not that they are actually the same.