PS5 Pro sales ‘have fallen behind PS4 Pro in the US
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It's surprising how well the Steam Deck plays new games and how much support has been added to older games for something with a form factor similar to the Switch and a price point that is lower than most computers or consoles with similar capabilities. It's a big change to the cost/benefit calculation.
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Just buy a PC, no reason for a playstation at all except to be forced to only play with the playstation people.
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I assume that the PS5 Pro is great for its target audience: people who care about getting the best possible graphics on a console. They bought it, they tried it, they loved it, and they praised it. The issue with the PS5 Pro is that not everyone fits into that niche. For people who are not playing on giant 4K TVs, what is the benefit? What does it provide that a regular PS5 (or even a PS4) does not? Sony has not provided an answer, from what I have seen.
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There isn't any real incentive to upgrade from a base PS5
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My PS5 will probably be my last non-Nintendo console. I use my Gaming PC for everything, Steam Deck for portable, and Switch for everything Nintendo.
I haven’t turned on my PS5 since Rebirth and my XSX for… Goldeneye? I don’t even remember it was so long ago.
There have been like 3 PS5 exclusive games that I wanted to play and they’ve all come to PC. Just don’t see the point anymore.
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This is the core issue of console gaming tho. You can’t actually upgrade. You just straight up buy a new console. This wasn’t that big of a deal during the PS4 gen because the PS4 pro wasn’t that expensive.
But at the current price points a different strategy is needed.Honestly I think if Sony made a program like “mail us your old PS5 and like $200 to get a PS5 Pro” the console would’ve done better. It wouldn’t address the “why do we need this?” part (especially considering we’re hearing reports of GTA6 running at 30 FPS on the Pro) but it would’ve done some good for customer goodwill.
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Can I recommend chiakideck? Playing PS5 games in bed using the steam deck is awesome, if there are any games that you have on console that you don't want to repurchase
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The Steam Deck is a PC. The most console-like PC experience you can get, but still a PC.
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Good. There were like six PS5 only games when they released it so I hope it does terribly - if you've bought one, you're an idiot.
"Let's just bleed em even drier" said Sony, careful not to cut its own lip on its vampire fangs.
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You kinda missed most of my points. Because a core advantage of building a PC from individual parts is that you can buy some parts used, or adjust them to what you actually need. You can't buy the PS5 used cause it just came out, but the components are actually relatively old.
A case can be had for cheap (often with fans). Also a used GPU might allow you to get a bit more performance for the same money (or the same perf for less money). Keep in mind that the hardware specs of the PS5 aren't exactly cutting edge top tier performance. You can also find a complete used PC with roughly the right specs, and a quick check showed an eBay listing for case+PSU+mobo+3700x+16gb and 512gb nvme + 2tb HDD for 309€. And that was the first hit, with "buy it now", after 30s on the site.
You can also tailor what exactly you buy to your needs. Maybe 1TB nvme is enough for you, or you can even start out with 500gb. It's a PC, just buy another m.2 when you really need it, takes 5 minutes to install.
But all that is kinda not the point either. Mainly the advantage is that it's a PC. It's not just a gaming thing (though it can be). That is what makes it worth it, also obviously depending on the individual needs. And that's the point. The PC does what you need, and can be made to change to whatever that is.
When you said "from a pure budget standpoint, no PC isn't worth it" you also one again COMPLETELY IGNORE that you need to buy games to play. Those are so much more expensive (and have a much more limited selection) on console. And over the lifetime of the console, game costs will have been much more than the device. That's the point, and why they are relatively affordable, they are subsidized by the manufacturer who makes money on every game bought for it. When a console comes out, they typically loose money on it.
Finally, once a few years have gone by, you can actually upgrade PC parts individually where needed. You don't have to buy the next generation new one, like with consoles. Again, much cheaper. For people who are on tight budget, this is or should be a huge consideration. Once you got a PC, the next upgrade is so much cheaper than a new console, yet it'll be equivalent to that new console.
Consoles are cheaper the day you buy them (and not by a lot). Even just weeks or months later the PC is cheaper. Years later it's cheaper by a lot.
