Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay

[earphone843@sh.itjust.works]

Bold of you to assume that'll happen in our lifetime.

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

Yes Trump is expanding on the human rights violations Obama and Biden put in place.

Take Trump’s order to construct a migrant detention centre in Guantánamo Bay – a space that has for years operated outside international law despite outcries and appeals for closure. Hundreds of prisoners were kept there under military law, often following rendition, disappearance and torture at CIA black sites. Trump’s proposal to detain tens of thousands of migrants there is an outrageous move, but it is not an aberration. He is building, literally, on what came before him.

“Like many of Trump’s authoritarian attacks on human rights, this one has shameful precedents in US history,” Vince Warren, executive director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, told CNN. “Long before the second Bush administration used the facility to hold and abuse nearly 800 Muslim men and boys as part of its ‘war on terror’, the first Bush administration held Haitian refugees there to try to deny them their rights under international law.” The prison, in fact, currently houses detained migrants in a facility called the Migrant Operations Center. Last year, the Biden administration awarded a private contractor over $160m (£130m) to run the facility.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/03/donald-trump-american-exceptionalism-guantanamo-bay-imperialism-billionaires

[reasonable_guy@lemmy.world]

I hope we all survive long enough for that to happen

[tyfud@lemmy.world]

As much as I hate trump, and boy oh boy do I hate him and elon so much I refuse to even capitalize their names, this is something that Bush started, and then Obama and Biden (and ESPECIALLY OBAMA) had the golden opportunity to do something about during their terms, Obama could have shut it down in 09-10 specifically with the full backing of congress; and they both chose to do nothing and let it remain.

So now we get humans rights violations being committed on migrants instead of just "terrorists".

[outlierblue@lemmy.ca]

First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak out
Because I'm one of the good ones

[quill7513@slrpnk.net]

my point is more that american propaganda has always been this. america co-opts the messaging of liberation to subjugate and harm. our best bet is to try to learn what black women were saying in that era. best way to find out is to log out the internet and start connecting with other humans around us

[jlh@lemmy.jlh.name]

The correct name is concentration camp. it is very important that people understand that this is a concentration camp.

The term "concentration camp" and "internment camp" are used to refer to a variety of systems that greatly differ in their severity, mortality rate, and architecture; their defining characteristic is that inmates are held outside the rule of law.[2] Extermination camps or death camps, whose primary purpose is killing, are also imprecisely referred to as "concentration camps".[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp

the new death camps outside of Germany's prewar borders could be kept secret from the German civil populace.[40]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

The fact that this camp is being set up outside the jurisdiction of the rule of law makes it a concentration camp and makes it 100x worse than any other immigration prison

[bassturd@lemmy.world]

Unfortunately, I've just seen the "opposition" just fall in line. A bunch of spineless geriatric Nazi sympathizers.

[bassturd@lemmy.world]

Hopefully it's just Trump supporters getting that waterboard treatment.

[11111one11111@lemmy.world]

How are undocumented immigrants being deported usually handled? I'm assuming, unless the undocumented person gives ICE a country, they usually have no idea what an undocumented immigrant's nationality is and the undocumented immigrant usually doesn't want to give a country cuz they left for a reason.

So what was happening to deported undocumented immigrants before 2025?

[shalafi@lemmy.world]

There it is! Every fucking thread. You're such a clever lad!

[shalafi@lemmy.world]

The "protest" is shooting ICE agents through your fucking door and fighting to your death. Y'all can go wave flags and chant all you like. I'm sure that would have given the Nazis pause to reconsider.

My wife is brown and legal, so yes, I have a dog in this fight. I'll be at camp trying out some new gear if anyone wants to join me.

[shalafi@lemmy.world]

It's a fair question. Got nothing better than to deflect with another question?

OP is asking for a solution. I ain't got it. Do you? I'm listening, really I am.

Suppose it doesn't matter what we think as this administration will do whatever the fuck they please, but it's at least a fair intellectual exercise.

[notsteve_@lemmy.ca]

I'm not American so I could be way off but didn't they try but were blocked by Republicans? At the very least they reduced the count of inmates to only the more complicated ones (ie. where do they get sent to, what do we, do we completely fried this guys brain, etc)

[myopinion@lemm.ee]

Has the Orange Turd installed the ovens yet?

[luigisuperfan69@lemm.ee]

definitely not an expert but i believe they’re allowed a trial and can apply for asylum if they’re scared to go back to their country. at guantanamo i do not believe they have that right.

[goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world]

It's such a fair question that literally at no other time in America's history did a president feel the need to use an extrajudicial torture prison as a deportation zone. WhAt CoUlD pOSsiBlY bE tHe AlTeRnAtIvE?! Idiot.

[dance_ninja@lemmy.world]

Yeah I remember Obama wanted to close it, but then the big question of where to move the prisoners to in the US had to be answered, and nobody wanted to hold them. It was politically dead at that point.

[taiyang@lemmy.world]

Wasn't a traditional walk out, but just yesterday there was a TikTok spread one that got a few of my students out on the street in LA to protest and cause traffic. Got in the news, at least. Normally non profits and rights groups do it, like in 2017.

Also naturally it's only Latinos in that, everyone else are very complacent right now.

[absentbird@lemm.ee]

Asking for a solution to the immigrant question. That's the reason the Nazis built concentration camps too.

Turns out you don't actually need to imprison people in extrajudicial torture camps, you can just treat them with a shred of human decency instead.

Like we've been dealing with immigrants for centuries, practically every nation has, we don't need a 'final solution', we can process them individually and find solutions dynamically based on the needs and situation of the individual. Sometimes that means deportation, sometimes it means granting asylum, and sometimes it means working with our allies to find a suitable destination. Imprisoning them in Guantanamo bay is not a solution, it's a pretense for extermination.