Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay
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Well, for now they're being deported to Guantanamo Bay. That doesn't necessarily mean they will then also be deported to their home countries. I could very well see the Trump administration keep thousands of people there indefinitely and have them do slave labor (which is legal in the US).
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How would guns help against a state that's supported by a majority?
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Giving everyone a reasonable path to citizenship. Immigration is good. It's good economically, culturally, and morally. The only argument against immigration is bigotry.
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OP is asking for a solution
Tell me, does the first one I suggest have to be my final solution, or am I allowed to workshop?
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Oh hey look, an idiot/Nazi!
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Isn't that what jails are for? in USA you have a ton of those I hear... if these people were guilty of anything, surely there would be zero trouble charging them (specially in the Kangaroo Military courts of the USA). Once convicted you can put them in any jail of your liking
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Yes, and keeping these people safe in US federal prisons was going to be difficult. Many of them would have been murdered/assaulted due to how poorly the US manages the prison system.
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They absolutely should be allowed to. It is an American basd and the rights of the prisoners there must be upheld and monitored.
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So instead they are kept uncharged and untried forever in Guantanamo??? where they are nicely safe and comfortable and not being tortured at all? for THEIR safety? got it
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
the U.S. Department of Justice claimed that habeas corpus—a legal recourse against unlawful detention—did not apply to Guantanamo Bay because it was outside of U.S. territory.
The Bush administration maintained that it was not obliged to grant prisoners basic protections under the U.S. Constitution or the Geneva Conventions, since the former did not extend to foreign soil and the latter did not apply to "unlawful enemy combatants". Various humanitarian and legal advocacy groups claimed that these policies were unconstitutional and violated international human rights law;[5][6] several landmark U.S. Supreme Court decisions found that detainees had rights to due process and habeas corpus but were still subject to military tribunals, which remain controversial for allegedly lacking impartiality, independence, and judicial efficiency.[7][8]
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“Because placing them in Guantanamo meant no one had to actually figure out where/how to house these people safely.”
I refer you back to my initial comment
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From what I recall about the reasoning behind abandoning the idea of closing Guantanamo Bay, the only options were releasing them in central park or keeping them in Guantanamo Bay.
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The first part of doing this intellectual exercise should be to eliminate the obviously unacceptable options. For example we can pretty definitively say, right off the bat, that a concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay is not worth considering even for a moment.
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To my fellow Americans:
You may think you are above this and since you voted you are guilt free but today, and every other day since the election, you are MAGA and no one watching from the outside will take the time to ask who you voted for.
If you think you are powerless you're wrong, your power just isn't concentrated into a swimming pool of $ signs. You can do more then vote you can elevate your brother. Everyday, you can elevate someone you know who will fight for your cause. At the grocery, you can let them in line in front of you, on the high way you can let them pass, in the town hall you can let them speak, every day you have the power to lift up those around you.
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confirming circular logic is circular... got it
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Did the $130 million Biden gave to a private contractor to run Guantanamo appear out of thin air?
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I could definitely see that being a right wing talking point at the time.
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ive been seeing some supposed marxists spreading a narrative that the deportations havent actually increased with trump, that he's just been advertising what was already going on in previous governments, to please his supporters.
Is this thing of sending immigrants to guantanamo a new thing? is it much worse than before? is the narrative i mentioned a big distortion of reality?
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No you don’t get it. They did this because the Bush administration didn’t want to confront the problem of potentially innocent people being murdered so they did nothing and other administrations chose to continue with that.
Sure these people should have been housed in the USA but can you imagine how few would live to see trial?