Man who participated in Qur’an-burnings convicted of incitement in Sweden

[anamethatisnt@lemmy.world]

Note that the Qur’an burnings is not what they were on trial for, but for what was said during the events.
Also, Tingsrätten is filled with laymen and almost always appealed in these kind of cases.

Criticism: Bundling together

Freedom of expression expert Nils Funcke believes that there are still question marks about how far freedom of expression extends.

– If you look at what Momika and Najem say in the transcription found in the preliminary investigation, I would say that Najem speaks about the Koran, about Muhammad and about the religion of Islam, and I think that falls within a broad freedom of expression.
I think that Najem and Momika's statements are lumped together and thus Najem is blamed for what Momika said.

According to Mark Safaryan, Salwan Najem's lawyer, the verdict will be appealed.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/nu-faller-domen-efter-koranbranningar-i-stockholm

[fourpacketsofpeanuts@lemmy.world]

Europe / UK / Australia you would have no difficulty doing this

[givesomefucks@lemmy.world]

The point is we can't compare it directly, because no one is burning bibles or torahs...

And certainly not with widespread international news coverage.

[fourpacketsofpeanuts@lemmy.world]

I feel like you either didn't read or didn't understand my original comment

[givesomefucks@lemmy.world]

We have to compare the apples to oranges because no one is burning bibles and torahs...

Because it's never about testing free speech

[fourpacketsofpeanuts@lemmy.world]

You said "never see them go after anything besides Islam".

That's because the cultural war against Christianity has been fought and won. I can guarantee if it was never fought in the first place you'd be in trouble right now unless you professed whatever Catholicism wanted you to (or whatever authoritarian Christianity was in place in your part of the world).

Women were executed en masse for being witches and you don't think that hasn't been fought against over and over for hundreds of years? Liberalism won.

Put on whatever blasphemous play you want to in a major Western city and people don't care (I'm not talking about that US). Christianity is no longer sending the inquisition. It used to.

And that's why I'm comparing apples with apples. It just that what conservative Islam aspires to is what Christianity was 300 years ago.

It begins by religious fascists asserting they have the right to tell you what to do. And that need to be resisted on principal.

Christians used to think they had the right to ban stores with gay people in. That needed resisting on principle. Zionists think Israel should be a special case immune from criticism. That should be resisted on principle.

Conservative Islam Islamists think you should give special treatment to the Qur'an. That should be resisted on principal.

[givesomefucks@lemmy.world]

And that’s why I’m comparing apples with apples. It just that what conservative Islam aspires to is what Christianity was 300 years ago.

You need to pay more attention to current events...

[fourpacketsofpeanuts@lemmy.world]

you're elsewhere claiming Israel isn't commiting a genocide and what they're doing is acceptable

I said nothing of the sort

Your inability to read properly and instead leap to wild conclusions is part of the problem

you're fine with genociding Muslims...I don't have the energy to deal with more nazis

Case in point

[verdigris@lemmy.ml]

Your reading comprehension is shit.

[jlh@lemmy.jlh.name]

Some more contact from a Swedish perspective:

These "Islam critics" often are critical of immigration and hold their demonstrations in immigrant-majority neighborhoods.

"incitement against an ethnic group" is the legal term for hate speech.

[stephen01king@lemmy.zip]

You condone book burning? Did you mean condemn?

[stephen01king@lemmy.zip]

Who's talking about murdering people? We're talking about what is considered hate speech.

[reddig33@lemmy.world]

Weren’t these two people immigrants themselves?

[mora@pawb.social]

Good catch, thought of the wrong translation apparently. To be fair, even deepl was confused.

[stephen01king@lemmy.zip]

Eh, so strange of DeepL to translate those two words the same way. Have you tried to see what Google Translate says?

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

The global population doesn't really matter for this, homicidal fanatical christians or jews aren't known to travel halfway across the globe to murder people who insult their religion.

...yes they will and regularly have? Besides christians are murdering enough women in places like the US with absurd abortion restrictions that they don't need to go anywhere.

[rumschlumpel@feddit.org]

Examples? The USA is in North America, not Sweden.