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I'm not against Jews, I'm against Israel.

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  • A [email protected]

    Israel is only 75% Jewish 🤷

    Obviously they’re trying to be an ethnostate and like to commit genocide. But it’s not like they’re doing that purely bc it’s only one group of people within their borders.

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    Ethnostate refers to them explicitly having written in their constitution that they are a state for ethnic Jews. Any civilized country has a constitution that grants human rights to ebery human and certain civil rights based on citizenship. Israel explicitly is designed as an ethnic supremacy apartheid state.

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      Ethnostate refers to them explicitly having written in their constitution that they are a state for ethnic Jews. Any civilized country has a constitution that grants human rights to ebery human and certain civil rights based on citizenship. Israel explicitly is designed as an ethnic supremacy apartheid state.

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      Ahh that makes the comment I was replying to make way more sense. Didn’t fully realize the extent to which Israel is founded on ethnic superiority

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        It's almost as if the lesson should be that Jews aren't unique and are just like any other people. And if you put any group of people into an explicit ethnostate, that group of people is going to turn into Nazis.

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        Feels like most places have had their genocide era

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          Feels like most places have had their genocide era

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          Well we exist in the present, not the past. There's not much to be gained today by sanctioning the Italians for the genocide their ancestors committed against the Gauls.

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            This is a misunderstanding of how modern Israel got to its current state.

            There were Jews in Palestine before the state of Israel was established.

            The issue isn't some ancient conflict, it's that without working with the natives of the region, the British government and UN unilaterally declared that they were making a colonialist ethnostate and took land from the native population for that purpose.

            This isn't some biblical tale as old as time. The region was (relatively) peaceful.

            It's very similar the gigantic fuck up of the India Pakistan split based on religion.

            As it turns out, religious ethnostates established by the displacement of natives creates a huge cluster fuck.

            And even with all that, things are as bad as they are today because over the last 3 decades Israel has used every conflict as a tool to militarize and isolate Palestinians.

            Palestinians aren't blameless, but they've been blamed enough for the problems of Israel. Much like the IRA's bombings were uncalled for, that doesn't mean Britain wasn't to blame for a lot of the problems of Ireland.

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            Not that Britain was blameless here, but they didn’t really have a choice. The Zionist terrorists were going to take country by force, so Britain/UN just capitulated, legitimising and putting in power that group.

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              Why does Israel decry it's criticism of the genocide as anti-semitism if it has nothing to do with it's religion? Israelis do use Judaism as a justification for their actions, is that not in doubt? Whatever happened in the past has no bearing on the immense suffering caused by a flag that symbolizes Judaism right now.

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              never hears of propaganda I guess. maybe look it up. so this is what you do, take fascists at their word, is that it?

              i wonder what nazis thought about criticisms of nazi germany. I bet they had some correct assessments.

              dude not gonna lie, when I first started arguing against your shit I thought it was just a neckbeard atheist thing, but at this point I think you're just desperate to justify antisemitism.

              not interested in arguing with bigots.

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                never hears of propaganda I guess. maybe look it up. so this is what you do, take fascists at their word, is that it?

                i wonder what nazis thought about criticisms of nazi germany. I bet they had some correct assessments.

                dude not gonna lie, when I first started arguing against your shit I thought it was just a neckbeard atheist thing, but at this point I think you're just desperate to justify antisemitism.

                not interested in arguing with bigots.

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                Reading the thread that's my take as well. It very much reads like he's soft peddling neonazi bullshit.

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                  Ethnostate refers to them explicitly having written in their constitution that they are a state for ethnic Jews. Any civilized country has a constitution that grants human rights to ebery human and certain civil rights based on citizenship. Israel explicitly is designed as an ethnic supremacy apartheid state.

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                  All Israeli citizens have the same rights under Israeli law.

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