Best game ever?
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I see. I still think claiming that Mario 64 and Zelda 98 are the foundation for most 3D action and adventure games doesn't really align with reality.
Especially the piece about Mario 64 being the first 3D game were movement was fun. I understand that the definition of fun is subjective, but this is basically false.
Beyond Quake, in Frontier: First Encounters you could literally fly between solar bodies, do planetry landings, fly between cities. This is far more difficult to pull off well than the relatively primitive movement in Mario 64.
Same with setting the standard for player hubs. I haven't played Mario 64, but I have seen friends play Mario Galaxy and the hub area in Galaxy well designed, but simplistic and with no dynamism related to gameplay.
Not sure about how exactly target lock-on functions in Zelda 98, but target lock-on definitely existing long, long before Zelda and in more complex, dynamic environments.
Don't get me wrong, you like what you like and clearly Mario 64 and Zelda 98 are good games, but it is strange to put them on the pedestal in this manner. Especially when many of your statements almost approach a PR level of what I assume is hyperbole (e.g. "first 3D game with fun movement" - this is clearly false).
Mario 64 was the first use of the analog stick in a console game. Push it a little bit to walk, push it all the way to run, and several states in between. Maybe you can find a simulator that had analog control, but I'm sure you can see the difference.
Ocarina of Time was a solution to that type of game in 3D space that, as discussed above in things like Tomb Raider, was far more awkward in its predecessors as the industry was figuring out how to make games work in 3D. It's very similar to how Halo wasn't the first console FPS, but it was the first one smart enough to put guns, grenades, and melee all on their own buttons, among other innovations.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
I'm not sure there can ever even be a "best game ever", but in any case mine is Grand Theft Auto 3.
Picture the scene. You've got your shiny PlayStation 2. You've got a bunch of games, but honestly, a lot of it could have been done on the PS1 with worse graphics.
And this bad boy drops, and never stops surprising you with all the absolute chaos you can cause. Not much of a story to go on, but the sheer scale of it was amazing. A whole city of driving, slightly wonky shooting and even flying (a bit). It was a game that just felt like the hardware was designed specifically for that.
We were no longer just playing games. We were living in the future. And we've never gone back.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
If I go with unique experiences as a criteria just to mix it up a bit I have a few
Playing xwing with a flight stick is really fun and one of my first gaming experiences outside of nes and arcades. Just really fun fast paced fighter combat. A close second would be everspace or Chorus on a controller.
Playing one of the big multiplayer arcade cabinets like Simpsons or X-Men was the original couch co-op with whoever was at the arcade not playing pinball or pool.
Beating your first boss in a dark souls or elden ring game feels like a big accomplishment, sometimes even more than the later ones when you're character gets more powerful.
Going from small groups with friends to raids in an MMORPG feels like starting a whole new game, EverQuest and wow were big ones for me.
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I'm not sure there can ever even be a "best game ever", but in any case mine is Grand Theft Auto 3.
Picture the scene. You've got your shiny PlayStation 2. You've got a bunch of games, but honestly, a lot of it could have been done on the PS1 with worse graphics.
And this bad boy drops, and never stops surprising you with all the absolute chaos you can cause. Not much of a story to go on, but the sheer scale of it was amazing. A whole city of driving, slightly wonky shooting and even flying (a bit). It was a game that just felt like the hardware was designed specifically for that.
We were no longer just playing games. We were living in the future. And we've never gone back.
I felt much the same about vice city. Changed my understanding of what games could be.
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Yakuza, especially the earlier in the series.
I've not played any of the Yakuza games but they are definitely on my list.
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I felt much the same about vice city. Changed my understanding of what games could be.
I'm going to contradict myself a little, because Vice City is the better game. It's got an actual story, a great voice cast, helicopter gunships, and the finest soundtrack of any game ever made.
But it was very much built on GTA3. The mind was already blown. It wasn't going to happen again.
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If I go with unique experiences as a criteria just to mix it up a bit I have a few
Playing xwing with a flight stick is really fun and one of my first gaming experiences outside of nes and arcades. Just really fun fast paced fighter combat. A close second would be everspace or Chorus on a controller.
Playing one of the big multiplayer arcade cabinets like Simpsons or X-Men was the original couch co-op with whoever was at the arcade not playing pinball or pool.
Beating your first boss in a dark souls or elden ring game feels like a big accomplishment, sometimes even more than the later ones when you're character gets more powerful.
Going from small groups with friends to raids in an MMORPG feels like starting a whole new game, EverQuest and wow were big ones for me.
Playing one of the big multiplayer arcade cabinets like Simpsons or X-Men was the original couch co-op with whoever was at the arcade not playing pinball or pool.
I bought the 4-Player co-op X-Men arcade cabinet from Arcade1up and it's been a blast playing it all the way through with my son.
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I'm going to contradict myself a little, because Vice City is the better game. It's got an actual story, a great voice cast, helicopter gunships, and the finest soundtrack of any game ever made.
But it was very much built on GTA3. The mind was already blown. It wasn't going to happen again.
Yeah that's fair, I never got to play GTA3 so vice city was my mind-blown moment.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
As someone who is not big into platformers or souls-likes, Hollow Knight.
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Playing one of the big multiplayer arcade cabinets like Simpsons or X-Men was the original couch co-op with whoever was at the arcade not playing pinball or pool.
I bought the 4-Player co-op X-Men arcade cabinet from Arcade1up and it's been a blast playing it all the way through with my son.
That sounds like an awesome experience, I have a friend with a mame cab in their basement that I would probably spend too much time on it if I had one. I went with the cheaper option for mame and arcade legacy using a raspberry pi running batocera, but for some games it's just not the same without the arcade controls.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
Tetris and it isn’t even a contest. Pretty much everyone can learn and enjoy Tetris.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
I’ll probably get flamed for this, but no game has kept my interest/attention or had been as important to me as Old School RuneScape.
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There is no such thing as a 'Best Game Ever', but it's Mass Effect 2
I would say that knights of the old republic was better
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
That's easy, Bloodborne.
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I'm not sure there can ever even be a "best game ever", but in any case mine is Grand Theft Auto 3.
Picture the scene. You've got your shiny PlayStation 2. You've got a bunch of games, but honestly, a lot of it could have been done on the PS1 with worse graphics.
And this bad boy drops, and never stops surprising you with all the absolute chaos you can cause. Not much of a story to go on, but the sheer scale of it was amazing. A whole city of driving, slightly wonky shooting and even flying (a bit). It was a game that just felt like the hardware was designed specifically for that.
We were no longer just playing games. We were living in the future. And we've never gone back.
When it dropped my folks were on a trip and I was staying with my grandma. Rolled into circuit city to get a copy and then dick behind the counter told me I wasn't old enough (12) to play the game. My grandma had my back though and told him off. Good times.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
Best game ever is... difficult if not impossible to qualify. I'm gonna go with Shadow of War near the top though. Nobody else will, but I really appreciate that game's ability to keep generating new experiences for you. Perfected the arkham combat, beautiful ragdolls, endless endgame to keep experiencing new orcs.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
Its been almost 6 years since I first finished dark souls 1, and I still think of its endings and themes.
The age of light and dark. Prolonging the current status quo, or give up and accept the new one. The idea that alone, the chosen undead is weak, but as you get help from others, you can get better/stronger.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
Well, my personal favorite game of all time is TES 4: Oblivion. The reasons I love that game are numerous but if I were to try to argue for it as being objectively the best game ever...
I guess I could say that the combination of older RPG mechanics with streamlined modern gameplay, mixed with a immensely beautiful fantasy world, flawless soundtrack, epic world-shattering plot, two of the best expansions ever made (KOTN and SI), absurdly legendary guild quests all come together to make it a true work of art.
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Yeah pacman and pong were seminal but so was elite on the BBC, and Populous which I think was on the spectrum. Also unreal tournament, silent hill, vice city, homeworld, doom 2016, beam ng, I enjoyed em all but I can't decide. Ppl here have done much more gaming than me, I'm wondering what you all think is the best game ever. Age, platform, genre, bla bla - what's best ever?
Has to be Outer Wilds for me. I can't think of any other game that would have left such an impact on me, in such a short amount of time.
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I would say that knights of the old republic was better
Honestly just missing the old days of rpg games now, KotOR was the shit
