Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

[cass80@programming.dev]

They're still a few on .ml claiming Gaza/Palestinians are better under trump. Absolutely nothing will convince them otherwise

[drdickhandler@lemmy.world]

How brave.

[sulaymanf@lemmy.world]

Put the rhetoric aside, and the answer is yes. Israel stole a lot of land from Palestinians under both Democratic and Republican presidents and kept them under an oppressive apartheid system depriving them of their rights. Both parties vetoed UN resolutions to stop or even condemn the practice.

The Israeli government proposed annexing the West Bank in violation of international law, and while one president said he disagreed with the idea, he said he’d back Israel if they did. The other one said he’d support the idea and back Israel either way. Putting aside the rhetoric or intentions, the action is the same. That’s why Palestinians aren’t cheering when one party wins over another in US elections, because they saw what happened when republicans or democrats won; their situation didn’t change. If you feel otherwise, go visit and talk to them like I did.

[antiproton@programming.dev]

Fuck yourself sideways with your indignation. We warned you over and over what would happen. You want to clutch your pearls now? Your personal stupidity, obstinance and bigotry is turning what was a horrible apartheid into an ethnic cleansing. This is YOUR fault.

[sulaymanf@lemmy.world]

It’s an odd kind of projection on their part. They were upset that their beloved candidate was getting attacked and told us to put our pain aside and shut up and fall in line. They were mad that their beloved candidate got protests because they betrayed their own constituents, asking “why aren’t you protesting Trump?” when many of us protested both when they were in office.

They’re just sour because Biden/Harris had nothing to show for their failed policy and don’t want us to remember the promises they broke during both campaigns.

[solidshake@lemmy.world]

How is this guy allowed to speak to anyone?

[earphone843@sh.itjust.works]

Yeah, fair voting is over in the US. You can't remove fascism at the voting booth.

[rhoeri@lemmy.world]

Ahhh… okay. Good! Now we’re getting somewhere! You openly admit to…. rejecting our “stupid fucking choices,” but simultaneously demand that we all unite together under your anti-genocide banner.

Got it.

Noble effort, not too many flaws that I can see in the reasoning- if only we were looking at two identical candidates that were equal in all rights though.

Because you see, your rejection of OUR “stupid fucking choice” not only opened the floodgates of FAR worse suffering in Palestine, but you also pretty much threw the the entirely of the LGB¹ and minorities under the bus along with so many other marginalized people in America,

All because of your entitlement.

I’ll even bet… that if I looked back through the year and a half or so of your existence here on lemmy… I’d find that prior to October, you had nothing at all to say about the plight of Palestine.

¹ - You might not be familiar with this new acronym. They used to be referred to as LGBTQ+ but because of the consequences of non-voters and protests voters, the “T” is not recognized as existing any more.

Yeah.. you’re not “we.” We tried to stop this. You didn’t.

[wrenfeathers@lemmy.world]

It was a rhetorical question. The answer is demonstrably no.

[rhoeri@lemmy.world]

You sure showed them, didn’t you? I’ll bet Palestine is overjoyed with your decision to not participate in helping elect someone that isn’t trying to force them from their homes and sending even more tonnage of weapons to be used against them!

So… much… winning!

[rhoeri@lemmy.world]

Wow… this is almost every logical fallacy rolled into one comment.

Bravo!

[rhoeri@lemmy.world]

It had a lot of words. That doesn’t make it a thought. And sometimes, “you suck” is the only appropriate response.

[tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Well good news for you, we have the seeds of literal genocide at home too! Aren't you proud of yourself

[friendbesto@futurology.today]

In fairness, this is BS. A leaked Israeli paper from early 2024 stated that that IDF and the Israeli's government overall goal WAS to remove all people from Gaza. Once and for all, if they could get away with it. The fact they systematically destroyed whole towns and places of culture educates us and reinforces that this was the plan all along. Trump is an Israeli puppet, nothing changes there, but the removal of people and the destruction of Gaza was the Israeli plan all along. This was known.

It is THEIR land. Their home. Why should they be shipped anywhere? That is an outright crime.

[tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Some of you all are just in full freakout mode these past two weeks. I'm calm as stone. Know why?

Because none of Trump's executive orders personally affect you or anyone you love. Must be nice to not have to decide between fleeing your country and taking up arms.

[dx1@lemmy.world]

In your society's made up system, that you refuse to abandon, despite the fact that its very existence threatens extinction for the human race?

[dx1@lemmy.world]

Not even fucking remotely what I said.

[dx1@lemmy.world]

No, because I have decades of trauma that you people are just beginning to feel.

[zaktor@sopuli.xyz]

I mean, we should also be paying. We had an integral role in the genocide.

[zaktor@sopuli.xyz]

That's literally been the last year and you felt fine the whole time.