Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

But....the god damn libs don't care about gaza!!!!!

[adarza@lemmy.ca]

gotta make room for the new golf course.

[pugjesus@lemmy.world]

You don’t give a shit about Gaza, you just wanna score points

I hope that everything you want to happen to Gaza happens to each and every one of you.

I too hope to avoid genocide, but unfortunately, it would seem neither Gaza nor me will be avoiding it under the Trump presidency.

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

Geez americans are stupid

[woodscientist@sh.itjust.works]

80% of Israelis support ethnic cleansing of Gaza. If they actually attempt it, what makes you think Biden/Kamala would have tried to stop it?

I think the only difference is that Trump would cheer on the cleansing while Kamala would have tut tutted about it.

Kamala isn't dead. She hasn't fallen off the face of the Earth. Has she released any statement even now condemning the idea? She doesn't even have to fear AIPAC anymore. She has nothing to lose in condemning the idea. If she won't even release a statement condemning it now, what makes you think she would have lifted a finger to prevent it if she had been elected?

That was the whole point of the uncommitted movement. The only difference between Trump and Kamala's Israel policy is that Trump vocally supports war crimes, while Kamala quietly supports them.

[partial_accumen@lemmy.world]

Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt

So trump advocating for illegal immigration to Jordan and Egypt? Didn't he just throw a fit claiming Canada and Mexico are supporting that to the USA?

[quill7513@slrpnk.net]

no. we're pissed at people like you because you bought obvious right wing propaganda and refuse to own it. you ignored the principals of harm reduction in the anarchist movement to keep your soul clean. you don't care about what action in a given moment of time will result in the best outcome for the people you claim to care about. you care about being seen as right. i want to know. did you talk to anyone at the protests? did you talk to any Palestinians? because the people out there in the streets knew what was stake. we voted for kamala. we held our nose and did it because of the candidates who had a chance of becoming president, she gave us the best chances of continuing to fight for human rights.

and do you know what i noticed? your ilk has all but vanished from these leftist spaces online after the election. honestly, it's friggin' exhausting having people like you saying people like us are just trying to score points or virtue signaling.

yes. kamala harris, joe biden, and hillary clinton are all awful people who suck, and the democrats tried to get away with running someone right of what their base wanted because donald trump was SO HORRIBLE. that doesn't change the fact that donald trump really is SO HORRIBLE

[endlessapollo@lemmy.world]

My l*beral in christ I literally voted for kamala

Believe it or not, not everyone who doesn't like liberals is a conservative or "tankie", it's just that nobody likes you. "Meet an asshole every day" and all that

[woodscientist@sh.itjust.works]

What evidence do you have that Kamala would have opposed this idea as president? Has she released any recent statement condemning the idea? It's actually a lot easier for her to do so now than it would have been with her as president. She's a private citizen now; she need not fear AIPAC campaign dollars. She need not fear offending Biden. She's not lifting a finger to condemn the idea now, when she faces zero downside in doing so. What makes you think she would have opposed it as president?

Sure, Trump is a lot more vocal in his support of ethnic cleansing than Kamala would have been. But I think Kamala would have simply looked the other way and refused to intervene if Israel attempted it. I see zero indication in her actual behavior that she would have intervened if she was currently president.

[woodscientist@sh.itjust.works]

Exactly. Kamala isn't facing AIPAC anymore. She's not running for office. She faces literally zero downside in publicly condemning the idea. Since she isn't condemning it now, why would anyone assume she would do it if she were currently president, when the pressures against her would be much higher?

[procrastitron@lemmy.world]

Trump is full of shit.

There's no other place for the Palestinians to go.

Egypt and Jordan aren't going to take Palestinians from Gaza, so all of his talk is just bluster meant to appeal to Israeli right wingers.

[nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

voting is not harm reduction

[not_that_guy05@lemmy.world]

There's Wyoming.

[quill7513@slrpnk.net]

it's a tiny itsy bitsy miniscule aspect of it

[embargo@lemm.ee]

Does anyone remember what fueled many of the Al Qaeda operatives hate for America? It had nothing to do with the brutal suppression of Palestinians, right? ...right?

[nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

no, harm reduction is recognizing the harm is going to come, and mitigating the consequences. it's not voting for someone who might only cause some harm.

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

Replace Independents with Democrats, and the same is still true.

[theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world]

Notice how all those bot accounts that were so active leading up to the election have completely vanished from the internet now? Yeah.

[shepherdpie@midwest.social]

effectively throwing your vote in the bin for a candidate that has zero chance of winning

So Biden and Harris? What even is your argument here?

[newdark@lemmings.world]

Seems like a good reason to stay home then.