Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza
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So, did you just get scared on January 20th?
My queer self has been scared since 2006...
Im hardly "celebrating it"... I'm acknowledging that it actually happens here.
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it's not what they said. it's a bad faith interpretation
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I'm pretty sure only I get to decide whether or not my interpretation is "bad faith," and since they are now telling as many lies as possible about me in this post (claiming I call people, including them, idiots, claiming I think voting is the only thing to do, claiming I think people should "vote blue no matter who," all easily disproven), maybe I'm not the one acting in bad faith her.
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Ah yes, so after you enter conversation about politics and voting, try to change the subject to other mysterious things you did to help, you get tired of people bringing back the original topic.
10/10 discussion /s
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Trump has no authority over the Palestinian people and/or territories.
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cry all you want but its not going to change that millions of past dnc voters want to see likes of pelosi and schumer hanged in the streets than blackmailed into voting for them again. just so they can continue to make millions selling the country to same oligarchs while we keep eating shit with a different packaging.
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I'm pretty sure only I get to decide whether or not my interpretation is “bad faith,”
the mods and admins also get to decide. your tu quoque isn't a defense, either.
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The Dems are constantly held to a vastly higher standard. This was true when trump first came to power too.
Hillary: competent politician, could have smiled more maybe, no big changes.
Trump: grab em by the pussy, pay hush money to porn stars, ramble incoherently.
Public: what about her emails?
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So, did you just get scared on January 20th?
I got more terrified on January 20th (or rather, on November 6th), and anyone who didn't isn't paying attention.
Things are going to get worse for all of us. Oppression will intensify. Hard fought victories will evaporate. And genocide is very much on the menu for these fascist fucks. So I'll thank you to not cretinize over how it can't possibly get any worse than it was. It can. It will. And anyone who's been alive long enough to vote should know that it can very much be worse than it was for minorities in 20-fucking-24.
Buckle up. We're in for a ride, whether you realize that or not. Me, I'm going over suicide plans I thought I long had the license to cast aside; only now instead of mental illness driving me to consider them, it's "What to do if things go well and truly south considering the government we have in power and my position relative to it?"
Im hardly “celebrating it”… I’m acknowledging that it actually happens here.
Oh, you're 'acknowledging' it by downplaying developing events, cool. Like talking about how the SPD wasn't stopping the rampant antisemitism in Weimar Germany, so the oncoming Nazi genocide doesn't fucking matter. "It was always a genocide, now it's just more naked!" you'll cry, as they herd us into the literal fucking gas chambers.
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The Dems didn't block any cease fires, it wasn't up to them. Seriously, just google "Cease fire rejected".
March:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/27/world/middleeast/biden-israel-hamas-cease-fire.html
"Hamas Rejects Cease-Fire Proposal"
April:
"Hamas rejects Israel's ceasefire response"
May:
"Israel has rejected a ceasefire"
June:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c888p5p2zvxo
"No Gaza ceasefire until Israel war aims achieved, Netanyahu says"
August:
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/18/hamas-rejects-us-ceasefire-hostage-proposal
"Hamas rejects new U.S. proposal"
September:
"ceasefire plan rejected by Netanyahu"
October:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-rejects-ceasefire-proposal-israei-troops-gaza
"Hamas rejects ceasefire proposal"
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It's sure a defense of why you've decided to focus on me and not the person who is clearly trolling. But sure, I'm the real problem here.
And you seriously reported me to the admins too? You think I'm violating Lemmy's ToS somehow? Please quote the part of the ToS I'm violating.
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In 1940, the Nazis' plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
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I'm talking to you because you responded to me. anyone can read the thread. you claim they're trolling but I woke up to a message from you demanding to know what I'm doing to help with harm reduction. and when I clicked into the threead you were shitting on someone who is actually helping with harm reduction.
I know who the troll is.
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Hillary bombed Lybia.
See here we have the exact reason why everybody hate american dems. The hypocrisy and self-centeredness. You're not better than the trumpers by international standards. Your so-called democratic party only have slightly better PR and guillible idiots quit passively supporting the duopoly.
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Accusing people of bad faith seems to be something you greatly enjoy doing:
Also, don't you think maybe you should consider what I'm actually helping with? Or does it not count when I do it? Because that would seem like "bad faith" to me.
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The same ceasefire that was on the table since April and was sabotaged by Israel repeatedly with no consequences from the Biden administration. And before that there were other ceasefire initiatives, that the Biden administration did not push Israel for. Also Biden himself praised how his team worked together closely with Trumps team in making the current ceasefire (that gets violated by Israel regularly) happen.
Finally Biden and Blinken kept repeatedly lying about Hamas not wanting a ceasefire, when it was Israel sabotaging the ceasefire negotiations, while Hamas kept saying they agreed to the proposal.
You simply cannot reject all the empirical evidence and flee into some idea of the actions of Biden to be somehow better, leave alone justifiable. More than 50,000, realistically more than 100,000 murdered Palestinians and the destruction of almost all of Gaza prove the contrary.
Trump now claiming that Palestinians would need to leave Gaza, because it became unlivable, screams to ask who made it unlivable. And there is more than 17,000,000,000 $ worth of bombs, that Biden delivered to Israel to make this destruction happen, as an answer to that.
Trump is speaking the quiet parts out loud. But Biden was steadfast in making it happen. And he and Harris kept emphasizing throughout the election campaigning, that they will stand by Israel no matter what. The reality is that both the DNC and the Reps want this genocide. They want to expand the US empire for their oligarchs. They will absolutely murder everyone who stands in the way of the empire, unless they are stopped from it.
And this is not a new story. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan... Palestine is just another item on the list of bipartisan murder and destruction.
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I'm absolutely right about each of the times I've pointed out bad faith engagement.
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You still haven't told me what part of the ToS I have violated despite implying you have contacted the admins.
That seems like "bad faith engagement" to me.
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don't you think maybe you should consider what I'm actually helping with
no. it's irrelevant to whether you're participating in this conversation productively. you're not. you're derailing.
