Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

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I’m sorry to disappoint you but we are unhappy with both parties. Biden is an absolute devil for allowing this genocide to unfold and providing both weapons and rhetorical and political support. Trump is an absolute devil too, the difference is that he’s absolutely unhinged and says the quiet part out loud.

I feel sorry for the domestical issues this is causing you now and the general chaos this guy creates but for us Palestinians Democrats and Republicans aren’t much different in their support for Zionism.

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we should vote dnc even when they are trash enough is defending them. trump became president because first time because of them not despite of them. he also became president second time because of dnc fossils and stupid biden doing nothing to control inflation or israel. he gave doj to republicans so that trump will be free to run against them in elections.
these scammers are happy today because they have succeeded in lowering the bar further for how trash they can be next time.

the best thing trump can do to prevent someone like him becoming president again is to hang entire dnc leadership and its smug consultants who pocket millions every election from our donations to only loose to a orange buffoon. once trash is wiped away leaders like aoc and warren will be actually able to build a real opposition.

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For obvious reasons, I don’t have transcripts of secret diplomatic meetings.

OK, so in other words, no proof except the say-so of the involved parties. Which demonstrably was not enough to stop Rafah from being flattened.

Yes, because the civilians had more time to leave because of US pressure.

Also known as "ethnic cleansing". You're aware the civilians did not want to leave?

The ICJ ordered Israel to take measures that ensure there won’t be a genocide.

And they didn't. They didn't even hand in the mandated report after... 1 month? That was a year ago now.

It’s a brutal war in in a dense urban environment against a deeply entrenched enemy hiding behind civilians.

"Human shields" argument also completely unsubstantiated, and visibly used as an excuse to demolish all civilian infrastructure.

We really arguing the Zionist talking points now? This how far this site has sunk?

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No, he plans to send a unilateral conquering and occupation force.

There is a difference.

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Oh, you mean the other plutocratic candidate wellbeing on letting christofascism even take root?

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That single issue is genocide you nazi fuck.

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Well thanks man. I’m not gonna stop trying. Don’t give up hope.

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Luigi mangione was having dinner with me when it happened.

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I asked what they thought the outcome of Oct 7th was going to be, and you said 'but what if it was like the Warsaw Uprising? would you still say that?' And the answer is no, because the situations are not similar. You tried to rationalize Gaza as a ghetto being invaded by the SS and that's why they had to attack civilians and take civilian hostages on Oct 7th. I tried to explain that I reject you rationalization, but I see we're straying very far away from 'isreal bad' so I am not surprised you're losing track of the conversation

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Also known as “ethnic cleansing”.

Evacuation of civilians from warzones is not only legal under international humanitarian law, it’s required.

“Human shields” argument also completely unsubstantiated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#2023_Israel–Hamas_war

hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed

Hamas run health minister claims 62,000 dead and missing. Where are you getting these ridiculous numbers?

Gaza Strip has been completely flattened

Estimates are 59.8% of buildings in the Gaza Strip had been damaged or destroyed.

Destroyed buildings are not a genocide.

What he’s posting is literal genocidal incitement

You have completely lost the plot.

I never advocated for Palestinians to be killed.

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The point of the original comparison was to draw attention to how you're equating the militant groups involved with Oct. 7 (Hamas, PIJ) with the ENTIRE Palestinian people, which includes not only people under Hamas rule, in the West Bank, and in the international Palestinian diaspora. Was that not clear? The genocidal demonization of an ETHNIC GROUP based on cherry-picked incidents was the problematic thinking I was drawing attention to.

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Not murdering them all isn't a concession. They can't go live in Egypt. Egypt has 3x the population density of the US now they won't accept gazans

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You are commenting on an article specifically about Trump

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Rewrite your comment except make it about “the Jews” re: the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. How does it sound when you frame it that way?

The point of the original comparison was to draw attention to how you’re equating the militant groups involved with Oct. 7 (Hamas, PIJ) with the ENTIRE Palestinian people, which includes not only people under Hamas rule, in the West Bank, and in the international Palestinian diaspora. Was that not clear?

Yes, this is not clear. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising is an invalid comparison to Oct 7th, and your further attempts to compare the two fall flat and in fact manage to further vilify Hamas and Gaza who have been attempting to ignite this very war for the majority of my adult life by shooting an unending barrage of rockets and mortars at civilian targets while using their countrymen as willing human shields

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You are assuming supporting Gaza would have helped in some way. In reality Americans see the gazans as a bunch of terrorist squatters and any greater support of them would have clinched the rust belt harder and only won more support on net where it wasn't useful.

It would have been fantastic if team blue could have pissed off millions of white people to gain thousands of Muslims in Michigan for instance netting a bigger loss.

The problem is actually that Americans are stupid trash who have rotted what brain they had on TV and social media

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I feel for the Palestinian people. Their genocide will accelerate.

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Genocide refers to the deliberate destruction of a group based on its identity, as defined by Raphael Lemkin, who introduced the term after witnessing the horrors of Nazi atrocities. The term was legally recognized in 1946 by the United Nations. Genocide includes actions such as killing, causing harm, and inflicting conditions that destroy a group. Israel’s military actions in Gaza are not aimed at destroying the Palestinian population but targeting Hamas, a terrorist organization. Statements from Israeli officials and military practices reinforce that Israel does not intend to harm innocent civilians in Gaza.
Israel’s military response in Gaza is aimed at Hamas, not the Palestinian population, which is not genocide but a defense against a terrorist group that seeks Israel’s destruction. Hamas's actions represent genocidal intent, targeting Israeli civilians and propagating hatred against Jews. Israel's actions are consistent with international law, focusing on eliminating Hamas and its military infrastructure in Gaza. The use of significant military force is justified, given Hamas’s attacks on Israel. These actions are not genocide, as they are in direct response to a genocidal attack by Hamas.
Israel’s military efforts are designed to minimize harm to Palestinian civilians, with the IDF issuing warnings before strikes and setting up humanitarian corridors. Despite challenges, Israel’s focus is on protecting civilians by evacuating them from battle zones and providing aid. The actions reflect Israel’s desire to protect civilians from harm while addressing the threat posed by Hamas. Claims of genocidal intent are contradicted by Israel's humanitarian efforts in Gaza. The goal is to remove civilians from harm's way while dismantling Hamas's infrastructure.
Hamas deliberately places Palestinian civilians in harm’s way to use them as human shields and to manipulate public opinion by inflating civilian casualties. It fires missiles from civilian areas, turning them into legitimate military targets. While Israel aims to avoid civilian harm, it cannot entirely eliminate the risk due to Hamas's tactics. The responsibility for civilian casualties lies with Hamas, which exacerbates the situation by using civilian sites to shield its operations. Israel’s military actions, while tragic, are legally justified in targeting legitimate military objectives.
Claims of genocide by Israel in Gaza are based on misunderstandings and unverified information. The true circumstances surrounding civilian casualties are unclear due to Hamas's control of Gaza's health ministry and its influence on casualty reporting. The real causes of civilian deaths, including whether they were caused by Hamas’s actions or Israeli strikes, are often unclear. Claims of genocide are fueled by misinformation, and the real blame for civilian suffering should lie with Hamas. Efforts to end the suffering in Gaza would be better focused on defeating Hamas, ensuring peace for both Palestinians and Israelis.

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Not how it works because this isn't like food we are now going to seriously risk even having a choice because we picked autocracy. Millions are going to die and we'll be impoverished for a generation whilst authoritarian China moves into a position of leadership.

Furthermore this is a critical period in deciding if we continue to exist as a species that is now largely going to be decided by fascists and morons

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It is in fact not invalid. Hamas's rockets have been untargeted with next to zero actual civilian casualties, the purpose is to financially exhaust the "Iron Dome" system. And it's completely dishonest to frame it as "starting" a war, when the Occupied Palestinian territories, including Gaza, are under "Israeli" occupation per the definitions under international law (don't give me that "they took out their settlements in 2005" crap either).

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Just not true. America largely believes in Trump. We are just that stupid.

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Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza