Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

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Your statement is a logical contradiction. The Iron Dome does not activate when the projected path of the rocket does not appear to target civilians

It does, actually, it performs a triage when it can't handle a large number of simultaneous projectiles, and of COURSE it's designed to intercept missiles sent to military targets. What a bizarre claim.

subject of your vote for Trump

Just flat out lying now. I'm done here.

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Sure. We'll take them straight to the camps and gas chambers. That's where our country is headed.

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Maybe I spoke a bit too fast, if the rocket from Gaza looks like it's not going to fall on anybody, the Iron Dome does not turn on. So to make the Iron Dome turn on, Gaza has to point the rockets at people. Does that make more sense to you? Your reply doesn't make sense in this context so I feel like you're confused.

Just flat out lying now. I’m done here.

It's a two party system, so if you didn't vote for the loser you effectively voted for the winner. You should be used to logical leaps enough to understand that; if you can vote, your vote matters even if you don't use it. Not using it is a choice, and choices have consequences.

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Oh, you mean the Nazi regime where anarchists self-organized and fought the Nazis while everyone else was inviting the Nazis to the Olympics? Or the times that anarchists showed up to put a beat down on Nazis doing a dog and pony show at Madison Square?

The utter lack of connection to reality here is astounding. Anarchists were not a large part of the resistance to the Nazis, and the Nazi rally in Madison Square was confronted by US veterans and Trotskyists.

We’ve been dealing with that for years already… I mean, how do you think Anarchists ended up in prison in the US already?

Jesus fucking Christ.

We only need to be lucky once. They need to be lucky every single time.

... what.

It’s hardly “macho bullshit”…

It's empty macho bullshit. You're no different than the "No Step On Snek" reich-wingers in your relation to reality. Have fun LARPing.

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Well, i have bad news... all of those were genocides

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You’re reaching out to people too stupid to understand basic logic.

Thankfully this problem has nothing to do with general intelligence which we don't understand anyway. This is a problem with information and knowledge. There is a lot of false information. And people are unaware of true information. Thanks to the internet we have the opportunity to educate people we have never met to correct this.

These are people who fell for accelerationism. It's an idea that anyone, of any political position, can fall for. It's so tempting to think that things can get better by getting worse. Because all accelerationism asks of us is to do nothing. People will look at history and see the bad things that happened to people who tried to change things for the better, assassinations, murders, assaults, arrests and incorrectly conclude it had to get worse in order to get better. The truth is people kept working to make things better despite these set backs. People learned from their mistakes and then applied what they learned.

We need to keep reaching out to people because accelerationism is both useless and false. If we let things get worse they will continue to get worse indefinitely. People who believe in accelerationism will keep believing in accelerationism no matter how bad it gets. Unless we explain to them why accelerationism is useless and false.

Which is why an anti-democratic felon rapist is our leader and is currently deconstructing our federal government.

This has been caused primarily by the right-wing information sphere and the general capture of mainstream media by billionaires. Fox News has been brainwashing people for decades. And Q-Anon was able to get the boomers who didn't know better to trust what they read on Facebook.

I've had multiple family members brainwashed by Fox News and other right-wing media. They are all competent women who held down jobs and raised families. One of them wrote code and another built furniture and metal art. Considering they are all white they would get high scores on IQ tests. It doesn't matter how smart or competent a person is. If all the information a person consumes is fascist propaganda it's logical to expect that person to vote for and support fascist candidates.

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The important thing is that everyone should know my hands are clean of this because I didn't vote for either party.

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This is not a particularly helpful message for the time being since the election is past and won’t be for a while at best.

Other countries will have elections to determine if they have a fascist takeover in the next four years and beyond. Canada's next election is October 20, 2025 but could be called sooner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election

This is more a wish on what could have been and leaves little room for current discourse when this is a dead end topic.

American accelerationists still need to learn their lessons. There was a hate crime in my home town recently against a member of the LGBTQ+ community. People in the local LGBTQ+ community went to a meeting to express their concerns directly to the police force responsible for conducting the investigation. This was an exercise in demonstrating power. The local news is talking about it and people know we will not accept intolerance.

So the election has passed in America, but many of us may find out there are opportunities to make a difference and be vocal. A person needs to understand that doing nothing isn't useful to participate in that kind of a moment.

Accelerationism is alive and well as is demonstrated by people in this comment section. So even though we can't change the 2024 election results, we are going to keep talking about them. If we do not, the 2026 and 2028 elections, which are not guaranteed to happen now, will look very similar. Even if there are no more elections in America there are still people who need help. They will not get that help unless people believe they need to be helping.

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I don't think these people actually care about Palestinians, it's team sports. They care more about saying "I told ya so" than advocating for people who are suffering.

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They just don’t seem to get any consequences for it.

The consequences are that Democrat politicians live in a fascist dictatorship, are persecuted politically, and remembered for their incompetence. Many of them are rich enough that they will probably not feel the impacts anytime soon, it really depends how serious Trump is on the retribution.

What's important is to care more about people than punishing the Democrats. If we are lucky enough to have future elections, we need to see the Democratic Party as a tool. edit: typo

They should have voted neoliberal.

There are more than one lesson to learn from an election. People need to learn to vote for the furthest left viable political party that they can. Democrats need to learn to adopt a populists narrative that pushes progressive and socialist ideas. Democrats are unlikely to do this until they are co-opted by progressives and socialists the way Republicans were co-opted by Trump. But delaying fascism as long as possible gives progressives and socialists more time to take control of the Democratic Party.

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Rhe important thing is that we elected a candidate with ideological purity. It's just that that ideology is fascism.

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I didn’t stop doing anything, what are you even talking about man?

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Consider this:
When kid A breaks an action figure of kid B and kid B then pulls the hair of kid A you still make kid A apologize first as they started it.

If however kid B proceeds to gang up on kid A, stab them, pee on them while they're lying in the ground bleeding and then start running off with a gas can and lighter promising to burn kid As house down, ... Well, then you fucking stop kid B and call child protection services to get that kid some serious help.

I know this might not be a perfect metaphor, but I'm so tired of pretending Israel is purely a victim defending themselves. They've gone past retribution a long time ago.

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If you have absolutely no empathy for fellow human beings, no sense of morality …… I guess that describes the orange guy

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I voted for Vermin Supreme because ponies and Americans really need to learn how to brush their teeth.

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That's good to hear. In the future, don't use "Jew" as an adjective. It's pretty much exclusively used by antisemites.

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so, are we only allowed to say ‘genocide’ when criticizing democrats?

Biden is complicit in genocide.

but when republicans do it “it’s not a genocide, it’s ethnic cleansing”.

Trump did call for ethnic cleansing. It's good people are calling him out on this, because that is what he did. The issue is that we should all be calling him out on genocide as well. There is no such thing as a peaceful ethnic cleansing. So when Trump called for ethnic cleansing it was also a call for genocide. I found this relevant quote on wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

"How could ‘forced deportation’ ever be achieved without extreme coercion, indeed violence? How, indeed, could deportation not be forced? How could people not resist? How could it not involve the destruction of a community, of the way of life that a group has enjoyed over a period of time? How could those who deported a group not intend this destruction? In what significant way is the forcible removal of a population from their homeland different from the destruction’ of a group? If the boundary between ‘cleansing’ and genocide is unreal, why police it?"

Peaceful ethnic cleansing is an oxymoron. Peace is mutually exclusive from forceful relocation.

I will update my above comment to reflect this.

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It's important that we make it clear that there is no way to do an ethnic cleansing without genocide. I've updated my comment.

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The last election is where democracy died.

There are other countries with their own elections facing the threat of a fascist takeover. Canada has one on October 20, 2025 that could be called earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election

I don’t think that legitimate elections are happening in 4 years. They’re gutting everything and installing their flunkies just as they said they would in p2025.

I think that it is likely we will not get fair and free elections if any elections at all in 2026 and 2028. It's still possible that we do. We thankfully cannot rule out fascist incompetence in general, but we can't count on it either for specific things. Regardless if we do have elections or not, having a movement that can win elections in theory is still useful for resisting and defeating fascism.

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This will mean fuck all the to Palestinians who became “displaced persons” just so the Israeli’s can have their own Lebensraum.

Does Lebensraum mean not to get attacked by your neighbors?
I'm not justifying this plan but to say that was Israel wanted all along when they disengaged in 2005 and didn't due start the war is a bit out there

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Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza