Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

[sulaymanf@lemmy.world]

That’s simply false, and literally every aid organization and the UN and international press said otherwise. Long lines of hundreds of trucks not allowed to enter Gaza by the Israeli military, even Biden admitted it.

[sulaymanf@lemmy.world]

You’re still strawmanning, because it’s no secret that Harris was better than Trump on literally every issue except Palestine. I admitted it above and you gloss over that so you can repeat the same thing as if you’re not listening. Trump is doing all the horrible things he promised he would do. You’re trying to blame me for this even though I wanted Trump to lose too. Peace.

[auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

*for the better option.

[computerscientistii@lemm.ee]

So, I am a sadistic monster for pointing out that kidnapping civilists and meístreating them instead of just getting rid of your extremist leaders led to the desaster. And not even showing regret and distancing yourself from those religious zealots doesn't help, of course. But I am the monster, not the kidnappers. How dillusional are you???

[wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world]

No, what I am trying to point out is that all the people who kept repeating the "both sides"-bullshit actually HELPED Trump win. Repeat something often enough and idiots will believe it. I have no actual statistics about this, but I wonder, how many people eventually stayed home because they thought both sides are the same and voting wouldn't matter anyway? How many people just sorta protest-voted Trump because they believed it wouldn't make a difference anyway? How many people actually switched to third party voting because they initially wanted to, and it wouldn't make a difference anyway?

Perpetuating this idea that Kamala was the same helped Trump win. It was repeated by certain people ad nauseam how Trump and Kamala were the same. How you shouldn't vote for democrats because it would be voting for genocide. If they were the same, you'd end up with genocide either way, so then vote for the one who's better on every other topic, no? But no, that's not what they said. It was an intentional campaign to make people not vote for Kamala, either by staying home or voting Trump. Every single thread was full of "both sides"-trolls and 99% of those have mysteriously disappeared since Trump won. I mean, it's logical, their work was done, right?

[frogger@lemmy.world]

What has happened in the last twenty years

[michaelmrose@lemmy.world]

This is world news but the thread is STILL about Trump specifically. If you don't want to talk about Trump the logical thing would be to downvote such thread so you see less of them.

[theacharnian@lemmy.ca]

Talking about Trump does not mean talking about the election. Talking about Trump is talking about the US President.

[darkfuture@lemmy.world]

So noble that you don’t reject genocide on principle

This kind of shit is why adults can't take you children seriously.

Do I actually have to type out the words "I AM AGAINST GENOCIDE" before you're willing to allow your brain to take common sense into account?

Like, how slow do you have to be to not grasp that being against genocide and choosing Harris over Trump to minimize the fallout are not mutually exclusive?

Dipshits who sat out the election or voted 3rd party didn't accomplish ANYTHING. They sat on the sidelines and cried like children while allowing the situation in Gaza to deteriorate.

[kerrypacker@lemmy.world]

For Palestine or for women's autonomy...pick one.

[fuzzydog@lemmy.world]

Well, let's see here:

Harris supported genocide
You voted for Harris
You effectively voted for genocide

See, unlike you, I'm not okay with making such a compromise. Here's a crazy idea, instead of making the boneheaded decision to run Harris, the DNC could have run a candidate who was actually popular, or at least not notably unpopular. But no, we got the sidekick to genocide Joe.

And let me remind you that the situation in Palestine got so terrible under Biden's policy of enabling Israel to no end. Seriously, Trump's been in office for a week or two, the overwhelming majority of the devastation is Gaza happened under a blue administration who was more than happy to give an endless supply of lethal aid to Israel for the last year and a half. FFS, if the Democrats had the spine to pull the pipeline of tax dollars to Israel within the first month of the ethnic cleansing, we never would have reached this point. Nearly the entire death toll in Gaza so far happened under Biden.

But hey, go off on blaming the voters who voted based on some pretty fundamental moral principles instead of the DNC for giving unlimited unconditional support to Israel for well over a year now.