Edward Snowden slams Nvidia's RTX 50-series 'F-tier value,' whistleblows on lackluster VRAM capacity

[eager_eagle@lemmy.world]

I bet he just wants a card to self host models and not give companies his data, but the amount of vram is indeed ridiculous.

[jeena@piefed.jeena.net]

Exactly, I'm in the same situation now and the 8GB in those cheaper cards don't even let you run a 13B model. I'm trying to research if I can run a 13B one on a 3060 with 12 GB.

[hakase@lemm.ee]

He's not wrong

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

The video card monopoly (but also other manufacturers) have been limiting functionality for a long time. It started with them restricting vGPU to enterprise garbage products, which allows Linux users to virtualize their GPU for things like playing games with near-native speeds using Windows on Linux. This is one of the big reasons Windows still has such a large marketshare.

Now they want to restrict people running AI locally so that they get stuck with crap like Copilot-enabled PCs or whatever dumb names they want to come up. These actions are intentional. It is anti-consumer & anti-trust, but don't expect our government to care or do anything about it.

[mudman@fedia.io]

Wait, did the guy refuse to call AMD's 9070 by its official name out of spite there at the end? Is this a weird tech The Onion thing?

[eager_eagle@lemmy.world]

Probably a typo, considering the current generation follows the RX 7X00 naming pattern.

[mudman@fedia.io]

So to put the likelihood of this in perspective, let me just repeat it to see if I understand the claim.

You're saying that one of the big reasons of Windows' market share is how artificially inefficient it is to install Linux, spin up a Virtual Machine, run Windows inside THAT and then run a game?

That's the mainstream use case that is propping up Windows adoption in this scenario?

[obviouslynotbanana@lemmy.world]

What the fuck is going on with the world

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

The main thing propping up Windows as the main OS (meaning it is running at the root layer) is exclusive hardware GPU support which is used for gaming & many apps. Otherwise, automating running Windows apps & Windows on Linux would have become much more mainstream.

[deleted@lemmy.world]

I legit tried to understand how a lackluster VRAM capacity could spy on us.

[gork@lemm.ee]

How could Snowden get a hold of one of these in Russia? Maybe through an intermediary in Kazakhstan?

Then again it's hard finding one here even in the US since they all went out of stock within 5 minutes of being listed.

[thehobbyist@lemmy.zip]

You can. I'm running a 14B deepseek model on mine. It achieves 28 t/s.

[800xl@lemmy.world]

Shut the fuck up, Snowden.You had everyone behind you until you defected to Russia. There's no free lunch and you had a lot of info Putin would like to have. Oddly enough things really started getting bad shortly therafter.

[jeena@piefed.jeena.net]

Oh nice, that's faster than I imagined.

[danitos@reddthat.com]

He was being chasen by the US government, and Assange proved that being in an US allied country will still get your arrested/tortured. What other options did Snowden had other than escaping to Russia?

IMO don't hate the player, hate the game.

[undercoverulrikhd@programming.dev]

According to russian over at r/hardware GPUs have become cheaper in Russia since the ban as they are now being smuggled instead of imported via Europe with all extra cost that implies.

[viri4thus@feddit.org]

Every one who bought the 7900xtx laughing their arse off running 20GiB models with MUCH better performance than a 4080/4080Super lol

[lipoly@lemmynsfw.com]

Think of it from Snowdens perspective. You get to choose: either be tortured for the rest of your life, or chill in Russia and pretend Putin is a nice guy. I know what I’d pick.

[viri4thus@feddit.org]

I also have a 3060, can you detail which framework (sglang, ollama, etc) you are using and how you got that speed? i'm having trouble reaching that level of performance. Thx

[viri4thus@feddit.org]

You'd fit squarely as the village idiot in a 1984 sub plot.