OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us
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That's a damn shame.
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That's what I said.
If a GPU and a hypothetical AiPU are the same tech, but nVidia could charge more for the AiPU, then why would they make and sell GPUs?
It's the same reason why they don't clamp down on their pricing now: they don't care if you are able to buy a GPU, they care that Twitter or Tesla or OpenAI are buying them 10k at a time.
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Yeah and then in this "free market" system someone can come make cheaper GPUs marketed at gamers and there ya go. We live again.
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Except "free market" ideals break down when there are high barriers to entry, like... chip fabrication.
Also, that's already what's happening? If you don't want to pay for nVidia, you can get AMD or Intel ARC for cheaper. So again, there's literally no reason for nVidia to change what they're doing.
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I know you're right. But I'm just making pro consumer suggestions, like anybody but us scrubs at the bottom gives a fuck about those. Moving the marketing to a different component would lower the perceived and real value of GPUs for us lowly consumers to once again partake. But its not like it matters because we're at some strange moment in time where the VRAM on cards isn't matching what the games say they need.
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They also already rolled back Biden admin's order for AI protections. So they don't even have the benefit of those. There's supposedly a Trump admin AI order now in place but it doesn't have the same scope at all. So Altman and pals may just be SOL. There's no regulatory body to tell except the courts and China literally doesn't care about those.
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I didn't realize it was a book. Guess I'll be searching that out.
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There's plenty of honor in Deepseek releasing open source.
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I'm still not seeing the bad part.
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... assuming deepseek is telling the truth, something they have plenty of incentives to lie about
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I love how die hard free market defenders turn into fuming protectionists the second their hegemony is threatened.
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I can't believe we're still on this nonsense about AI stealing data for training.
I've had this argument so many times before y'all need to figure out which data you want free and which data do you want to pay for because you can't have it both ways.
Either the data is free or it's paid for. For everyone including individuals and corporations.
You can't have data be free for some people and be paid for for others it doesn't work that way we don't have the infrastructure to support this kind of thing.
For example Wikipedia can't make its data available for AI training for a price and free for everyone else. You can just go to wikipedia.com and read all the data that you want. It's available for free there's no paywall there's no subscriptions no account to make no password to put in no username to think of.
Either all data is free or it's all paid for.
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I tend to think that information should be free, generally, so I would be fine with "OpenAI the non-profit" taking copyrighted data under fair-use, but I don't extend that thinking to "OpenAI the for-profit company".
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everyone concerned about their privacy going to china-- look at how easy it is to get it from the hands of our overlord spymasters who've already snatched it from us.
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I mean, sure, but the issue is that the rules aren't being applied on the same level. The data in question isn't free for you, it's not free for me, but it's free for OpenAI. They don't face any legal consequences, whereas humans in the USA are prosecuted including an average fine per human of $266,000 and an average prison sentence of 25 months.
OpenAI has pirated, violated copyright, and distributed more copyright than an i divided human is reasonably capable of, and faces no consequences.
https://www.splaw.us/blog/2021/02/looking-into-statistics-on-copyright-violations/
https://www.patronus.ai/blog/introducing-copyright-catcher
My use of the term "human" is awkward, but US law considers corporations people, so i tried to differentiate.
I'm in favour of free and open data, but I'm also of the opinion that the rules should apply to everyone.
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It's a shame that you can't copyright the output of AI, isn't it?
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Intellectual property theft for me but not for thee!
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Trump executive order on the copyrightability of AI output in 3...
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so? it won't have any effect on china, because last i checked, us laws apply only in the us
