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    What console exclusive came to GOG?
    I don't belive GOG or EA would buy the license of old FIFA players just so they can publish old FIFA games.
    It's better to have a smaller curated list where players can vote and GOG choose a game to focus on. Right now the fact we can vote for dead live service games to come to a non-DRM store is just weird.

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    Does God of War count?

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      What console exclusive came to GOG?
      I don't belive GOG or EA would buy the license of old FIFA players just so they can publish old FIFA games.
      It's better to have a smaller curated list where players can vote and GOG choose a game to focus on. Right now the fact we can vote for dead live service games to come to a non-DRM store is just weird.

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      You know, I just checked the ones I was confident on, and it turns out they each had an obscure Windows port back in the day that I never heard of. Still, the other popular trend going on right now for porting old console games like Tomba and Mega Man is to run them through tools that emulate the game and then output native code, and I wouldn't consider it a waste of time to show where the demand is. For old sports games, it may be difficult or impossible to acquire the old rights, but if it's at all possible, and these are customers that aren't making them money on the modern iterations, that's still worth it too.

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        Does God of War count?

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        God of War came to Steam first, it wasn't because of GOG efforts. The games that GOG manage to bring back (RE games and Dino Crisis for exemple) had japanese PC clients.

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          You know, I just checked the ones I was confident on, and it turns out they each had an obscure Windows port back in the day that I never heard of. Still, the other popular trend going on right now for porting old console games like Tomba and Mega Man is to run them through tools that emulate the game and then output native code, and I wouldn't consider it a waste of time to show where the demand is. For old sports games, it may be difficult or impossible to acquire the old rights, but if it's at all possible, and these are customers that aren't making them money on the modern iterations, that's still worth it too.

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          I'm not saying that it's a waste of effort. I'm just saying that it's a way to disapoint people that don't understand what the dreamlist is for.
          Internet can be a bitch when people don't get what they want.
          I just did a quick search and saw Pokémon games there and some romhacks..... No way in hell Nintendo would sell their games on PC in a non-DRM store.

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            God of War came to Steam first, it wasn't because of GOG efforts. The games that GOG manage to bring back (RE games and Dino Crisis for exemple) had japanese PC clients.

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            Pretty sure it released on both platforms at the same time, as far as I’m concerned any games that show up on GoG with no DRM take a bit of effort from GoG to actually verify and host the installers, more so when the contracts expire and they have to delist them and try to get them back

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              I'm not saying that it's a waste of effort. I'm just saying that it's a way to disapoint people that don't understand what the dreamlist is for.
              Internet can be a bitch when people don't get what they want.
              I just did a quick search and saw Pokémon games there and some romhacks..... No way in hell Nintendo would sell their games on PC in a non-DRM store.

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              There is, if the money is there. Nintendo's also under new management these days, and if the old strategies don't work, they could pivot, just like Microsoft and Sony have.

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                Pretty sure it released on both platforms at the same time, as far as I’m concerned any games that show up on GoG with no DRM take a bit of effort from GoG to actually verify and host the installers, more so when the contracts expire and they have to delist them and try to get them back

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                Yes GOG takes a bit more time to verify the installer, but I'm sure when Sony put the games on PC the reason was the massive Steam (and maybe Epic) userbase, GOG was an afterthought.

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                  There is, if the money is there. Nintendo's also under new management these days, and if the old strategies don't work, they could pivot, just like Microsoft and Sony have.

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                  Nintendo would most likely sell PC games from their website first, and then after some time sell them on Steam. But the odds of Nintendo porting Switch games for PC is extremely low.

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                    Nintendo would most likely sell PC games from their website first, and then after some time sell them on Steam. But the odds of Nintendo porting Switch games for PC is extremely low.

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                    I agree, but it'll be the only way they get my money. Everyone can see that PC line going up and that console line going down, so we'll see how long they hold their ground; probably one generation longer than Sony does.

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                      I agree, but it'll be the only way they get my money. Everyone can see that PC line going up and that console line going down, so we'll see how long they hold their ground; probably one generation longer than Sony does.

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                      Sony and Nintendo won't go anywhere any time soon. Console gaming is easier and "cheaper" than PC gaming, and most people don't care (or know about) non-DRM.

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                        Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                        • a tool for backing up offline installers
                        • ability to install previous versions of a game
                        • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                        • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                        And others that I can't remember.

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                        Honestly, I would totally move to GOG, however my entire games collection is on Steam, so it would be very very difficult and it’s rather tedious to have and use 2 platforms like that.

                        Oh well, I do hope they can get more people onto their platform. it’s a better Epic store for sure.

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                          Just did a GOG survey that focused on the idea of a paid membership option on GOG. Seems they're determining what people would be willing to pay extra for. Some of the options were

                          • a tool for backing up offline installers
                          • ability to install previous versions of a game
                          • extra insight into the preservation work they're doing.
                          • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

                          And others that I can't remember.

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                          GOG maybe give us an option to turn off cookies inside your app before asking us money!

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                            Sony and Nintendo won't go anywhere any time soon. Console gaming is easier and "cheaper" than PC gaming, and most people don't care (or know about) non-DRM.

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                            Consoles won't go away, but they're in the process of transforming. Peak spending on consoles was all the way back in 2009 and has dropped ever since. There are perhaps dozens of reasons for the change, but one of them might be that the average consumer picked up on the air quotes around the ways consoles are cheaper. As for non-DRM, as long as piracy remains better than the official option, there's money being left on the table, and I have confidence that a lot of that will change too, though it will be far slower than I'd like.

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                              Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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                              While I agree, it's also a chicken and egg problem. How can more money flow if they don't make it easy? Even just endorsing Heroic and providing them some APIs would work

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                                I thought it was a command that you could launch steam with that would give you access to older versions. I'm sure I have done that when trying to mod GTA and it needed a particular version.

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                                Ah, seems you're partially correct - steam has a command for downloading a specific depot version. You need to know the specific ID to download, and notably games can use multiple depots to form the game files, but I thought you needed to use something like SteamCMD or DepotDownloader for that.

                                I'm still upholding the fact that it's not a "proper" feature, while I appreciate having those kind of utilities put in the user's control, this isn't something most people could figure out themselves.

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                                  Honestly, I would totally move to GOG, however my entire games collection is on Steam, so it would be very very difficult and it’s rather tedious to have and use 2 platforms like that.

                                  Oh well, I do hope they can get more people onto their platform. it’s a better Epic store for sure.

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                                  I honestly felt the same. Then I thought, eh, let's just try. Turns out I don't care about my library being split. I just add desktop icons for the games I'm playing and launch them from there without thinking about what platform it's on.

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                                    Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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                                    This is a future proofing measure. With the enshittification of Windows there is a reasonably sizable share that is looking to migrate. Making an API/front end functional on the platform is just good business. I for one will be switching 95% to Linux the instant Microsoft acts on their patant for putting a mandatory advertising ticket on the screen. Literally the only thing I will use it for is programming things for work.

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                                      Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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                                      and its not linux or mac

                                      Except there's already a Mac version of GOG Galaxy.

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                                        Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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                                        With the Steam Deck getting more popular and more SteamOS handhelds on the way, it has never been a better time for game companies to support Linux. GOG does already sell some games that have Linux support, they just don't have a convenient way to download and install them.

                                        GOG galaxy appears to use CEF and Qt, as well as some parts (such as plugins) that use python. All of those are cross platform. So I doubt it would be incredibly difficult to port to Linux. The fact that there is already a macOS version indicates that it can be made cross platform and can run on Unix-based systems.

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                                          Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying, where is that financially a viable option to cater to the tiniest percentage of gamers for gog? I know ill get downvoted but im tired of the fanatical linux posts on lemmy at this point. Get with reality they are going to work on the client where the money is most predominantly flowing from and its not linux or mac. Haters gonna hate the truth but its the truth from a business standpoint.

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                                          Making porting gog to linux a priority which has by far the smallest market share for computer gaming is the dumbest thing anyone in this thread is saying

                                          Building a bridge across the river is totally stupid, because no one crosses that river to get to where they are going.

                                          Building a house on that hill is dumb, because no one lives there.

                                          Creating that new type of device is a waste of time, because no one has ever bought one like that.

                                          ...

                                          You see the point, right? Not that I'm trying to give business advice. I'm just saying that these things aren't necessarily as stupid as you seem to think.

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