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Kid gave a reasonable answer without all the math bullshit

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    I'm sorry, what? There is precisely nothing unreasonable about this question. It has a correct answer that can be found with basic logic

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    Yeah, most pizzerias sell many sizes. Both answers are valid.

    In fact, i would argue making an assumption, in this case about size, without declaring it, is in fact less reasonable.

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      I can't find it now and I do not think it really applies here. But someone stated that being high IQ could lead to academic problems as the high IQ learner would understand or see things that the professor could not causing the professor to mark it as incorrect.

      I guess this is the idiocracy version of it.

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      • sarge@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

        Or teacher didn't even see this, handed it to a high school student and said "grade this stack of papers"

        I had that happen several times in science classes in 3rd-8th grade. Eventually I started arguing with the teachers in class, and boy did they not like being corrected.

        Sorry Ms Avery, you not knowing that "Pb" is the abbreviation of the Latin word "plumbum", where we also get "plumbing" from due to its use in piping in rome, doesn't mean I got the answer wrong. To her credit, she looked it up and changed my grade before the end of class.

        Ms hoschouli from 7th grade can get fucked though, a parallel circuit increases amperage load, not voltage load. I knew more about electronics in 7th grade than a college graduate who teaches science class, which in hindsight isn't that impressive considering it was general science and not electronics specific... But in 7th grade, as far as I was concerned I was hot shit for knowing more than the teacher, and getting detention for calling her out in the middle of class. Never got the grade changed and I only got out of detention because my parents called the school.

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        I had a teacher mark my answer incorrect because I said women can have hemophilia. They said you can't because it's a sex-linked disease. I said sure, but what happens if you have two X chromosomes with that gene on it? Still didn't get the point. This was in the 80s, and I couldn't just look it up on the internet and prove how wrong they were.

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        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

          The teacher is fucking stupid.

          The teacher is likely under-trained, overworked, and under-qualified for the class. Common in districts where the focus of the administration is driving down the cost of education rather than delivering the highest quality.

          That is, of course, assuming this is a real homework and not some agitprop churned out by a Facebook group or a social media account more interested in generating outrage than education.

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          "Under-qualified" for the class? Are we really setting the bar beneath the level of a grade schooler?

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            I can't find it now and I do not think it really applies here. But someone stated that being high IQ could lead to academic problems as the high IQ learner would understand or see things that the professor could not causing the professor to mark it as incorrect.

            I guess this is the idiocracy version of it.

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            A good teacher sees being corrected as a learning experience, and encourages their students to question them respectfully.

            Bad teachers see it as a challenge to their authority.

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              "Under-qualified" for the class? Are we really setting the bar beneath the level of a grade schooler?

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              Sadly, yes. A third grade transfer student from a good school district might very well be smarter than their teacher. Especially in rural areas.

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                Teachers that don't accept an unexpected but true answer are not teaching. The test taker had a correct take, one of the pizzas could be bigger than the other. It was not specified in the question. I am so glad I am out of school

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                • K [email protected]

                  The teacher didn't write OR understand the question. It's about reasonableness - that is, not just mindlessly solving math. The solution is that Marty's pizza was bigger, so 4/6 of that was more than 5/6 of Luis', smaller pizza.

                  There is no lie. The teached is just dumb. Or more likely overworked, but wrong nontheless.

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                  This is not that level of reasoning. This is basically 4 < 5 if they're both over 6. This is introducing fractions.... It's not that deep.

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                    It’s fucking dumb. No where did it say the pizzas are equal size. So the kids answer is just as right as her bullshit answer.

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                    The kid actually answered the question. The teacher's expected response is basically "no, your question is wrong and I refuse to answer it."

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                      I can't find it now and I do not think it really applies here. But someone stated that being high IQ could lead to academic problems as the high IQ learner would understand or see things that the professor could not causing the professor to mark it as incorrect.

                      I guess this is the idiocracy version of it.

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                      I think this would more likely be an overworked and underpaid situation.

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                        No, the kid's answer is not "just as right", it is the correct and expected answer. The teacher's answer is wrong and proof the teacher doesn't understand the question. The entire point of the question is understanding that fractions of a whole are relative to that whole and you can't directly compare fractions from different wholes like that. 5/6 > 4/6 doesn't mean Luis ate more pizza than Marty, it means Luis ate a larger share of his pizza than Marty ate out of his own.

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                        This is not a Maths test.
                        Its a comprehension test for a test card series, the question is titled "Reasonableness".

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                          "This is not possible because..."

                          This kid is never going to trust teachers again.

                          He was right. The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.

                          Will the teacher admit that? Or is the expectation that this (likely neuro divergent) student should have just understood the expectations based on context clues or something?

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                          The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.

                          Its not a Maths test. Its a comprehension test.

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                            Honestly I suspect the question was phrased poorly. It should have simply said "who ate more pizza" not stated who ate more and request to explain how

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                            The test is for lateral thinking, not for mathematics.

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                              I've never seen so many people who are proud that they don't understand an elementary-school level math, this is hilarious.

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                              You're the dope that doesn't get the math.

                              4/6 x > 5/6 y

                              x > 5/4 y

                              Where this relation holds the statement is consistent. I think you should revisit some basics.

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                                Reminds me of the stack of frozen mini pizzas you could get in the 80s.

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                                  Teachers that don't accept an unexpected but true answer are not teaching. The test taker had a correct take, one of the pizzas could be bigger than the other. It was not specified in the question. I am so glad I am out of school

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                                  It really seemed like my fellow students lost their interest in math as we went through the grades here in the US.

                                  I still remember a kid in 2nd grade who learned how Roman numerals worked because they were interesting. By grade 6, actively detested math.

                                  Curious.

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                                    I had situations like this at least a few times a year in school.
                                    I usually managed to convince the teacher I was right.

                                    And yah this kid is almost certainly ND.
                                    Not just the answer, but the handwriting screams dysgraphia.
                                    It looks a lot like mine.

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                                      Ahh, fractions and word problems, the bane of my education (seriously, why do we bother with fractions when decimals are easier to compute and express?)

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                                        i can't fathom this being real, most probably this was made for karma farming or something.

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                                          i can't fathom this being real, most probably this was made for karma farming or something.

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                                          Also what teacher uses a green felt tip pen?

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