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What steps do you take to secure your server and your selfhosted services?

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  • O [email protected]

    Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

    • Cloudflare proxy
    • Reverse Proxy
    • Fail2ban
    • Docker containers on their own networks
    irmadlad@lemmy.worldI This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote on last edited by
    #25
    • Fail2ban
    • UFW
    • Reverse Proxy
    • IPtraf (monitor)
    • Lynis (Audit)
    • OpenVas (Audit)
    • Nessus (Audit)
    • Non standard SSH port
    • CrowdSec + Appsec
    • No root logins
    • SSH keys
    • Tailscale
    • RKHunter
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    • O [email protected]

      Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

      • Cloudflare proxy
      • Reverse Proxy
      • Fail2ban
      • Docker containers on their own networks
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      wrote on last edited by
      #26

      Tailscale and being at my house is the only two ways in so I feel those are pretty good for me.

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        My new strategy is to block EVERY port except WireGuard. This doesn't work for things you want to host publicly ofc, like a website, but for most self host stuff I don't see anything better than that.

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        #27

        My new strategy is to block EVERY port

        Wow! All 65535 +/-, in and out? That's one way to skin a cat.

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        • irmadlad@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

          My new strategy is to block EVERY port

          Wow! All 65535 +/-, in and out? That's one way to skin a cat.

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          #28

          ez pz:

          #!/usr/sbin/nft -f
          table inet filter {
              chain input {
                  type filter hook input priority raw; policy accept;
                  iif "lo" accept
                  ct state established,related accept
                  iif "enp1s0" udp dport 51820 accept
                  iif "enp1s0" drop
              }
          
              chain forward {
                  type filter hook forward priority raw; policy accept;
                  iif "lo" accept
                  ct state established,related accept
                  iif "enp1s0" udp dport 51820 accept
                  iif "enp1s0" drop
              }
          
              chain output {
                  type filter hook output priority raw; policy accept;
              }
          }
          
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            ez pz:

            #!/usr/sbin/nft -f
            table inet filter {
                chain input {
                    type filter hook input priority raw; policy accept;
                    iif "lo" accept
                    ct state established,related accept
                    iif "enp1s0" udp dport 51820 accept
                    iif "enp1s0" drop
                }
            
                chain forward {
                    type filter hook forward priority raw; policy accept;
                    iif "lo" accept
                    ct state established,related accept
                    iif "enp1s0" udp dport 51820 accept
                    iif "enp1s0" drop
                }
            
                chain output {
                    type filter hook output priority raw; policy accept;
                }
            }
            
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            wrote on last edited by
            #29

            I've seen it done as such:

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            • O [email protected]

              Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

              • Cloudflare proxy
              • Reverse Proxy
              • Fail2ban
              • Docker containers on their own networks
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              wrote on last edited by
              #30

              One thing I do is instead of having an open SSH port, I have an OpenVPN server that I’ll connect to, then SSH to the host from within the network. Then, if someone hacks into the network, they still won’t have SSH access.

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              • O [email protected]

                Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

                • Cloudflare proxy
                • Reverse Proxy
                • Fail2ban
                • Docker containers on their own networks
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                wrote on last edited by
                #31

                I put up a sign that says, "No hackers allowed plz"

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                  One thing I do is instead of having an open SSH port, I have an OpenVPN server that I’ll connect to, then SSH to the host from within the network. Then, if someone hacks into the network, they still won’t have SSH access.

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                  #32

                  I do the same, but with Wireguard instead of OpenVPN. The performance is much better in my experience and it sucks less battery life.

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                  • O [email protected]

                    Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

                    • Cloudflare proxy
                    • Reverse Proxy
                    • Fail2ban
                    • Docker containers on their own networks
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #33

                    Some I haven't yet found in this thread:

                    • rootless podman
                    • container port mapping to localhost (e.g. 127.0.0.1:8080:8080)
                    • systemd services with many of its sandboxing features (PrivateTmp, ...)
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                    • O [email protected]

                      Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

                      • Cloudflare proxy
                      • Reverse Proxy
                      • Fail2ban
                      • Docker containers on their own networks
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                      #34

                      Fail2ban config can get fairly involved in my experience. I'm probably not doing it the right way, as I wrote a bunch of web server ban rules --- anyone trying to access wpadmin gets banned, for instance (I don't use WordPress, and if I did, it wouldn't be accessible from my public facing reverse proxy).

                      I just skimmed my nginx logs and looked for anything funky and put that in a ban rule, basically.

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                        I put up a sign that says, "No hackers allowed plz"

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                        #35

                        How has that been going?

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                          How has that been going?

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                          #36

                          "All your containers are belong to us."

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                          • C [email protected]

                            Some I haven't yet found in this thread:

                            • rootless podman
                            • container port mapping to localhost (e.g. 127.0.0.1:8080:8080)
                            • systemd services with many of its sandboxing features (PrivateTmp, ...)
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                            #37

                            I assume #2 is just to keep containers/stacks able to talk to each other without piercing the firewall for ports that aren't to be exposed to the outside? It wouldn't prevent anything if one of the containers on that host were compromised, afaik.

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                            • akatsukilevi@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                              Disable password authentication on SSH

                              Enable firewall and block all ports you're not using(most firewalls do this by default)

                              Switch to a LTS kernel(not security related, but it keeps things going smooth... Technically it is safer since it gets updated less often so it is a bit more battle tested? Never investigated whenever a LTS kernel is safer than a standard one)

                              Use Caddy to proxy to services instead of directly exposing them out

                              HTTPS for web stuff(Caddy does it automatically)

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                              #38

                              Caddy or any other (reputable) reverse proxy. I think Nginx Proxy Manager would be best for beginner thanks to GUI.

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                              • shimitar@downonthestreet.euS [email protected]

                                This, but I prefer nginx.

                                And no real need for tailscale or cloudflare. If you do not like to depend on a third party service, either port forward and ddns or an external vps+wire guard if you have gcnat

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                                #39

                                This is a valid solution but honestly how is using VPS not depending on third party?

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                                • O [email protected]

                                  Inspired by this comment to try to learn what I'm missing.

                                  • Cloudflare proxy
                                  • Reverse Proxy
                                  • Fail2ban
                                  • Docker containers on their own networks
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                                  They aren't on the internet mainly.

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                                  • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                    I assume #2 is just to keep containers/stacks able to talk to each other without piercing the firewall for ports that aren't to be exposed to the outside? It wouldn't prevent anything if one of the containers on that host were compromised, afaik.

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                                    #41

                                    Containers can talk to each other without any ports exposed at all, they just need to be added to the same docker network.

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                                      • Cloudflare proxy
                                      • Reverse Proxy
                                      • Fail2ban
                                      • Docker containers on their own networks
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                                      #42

                                      NPM, Nginx

                                      If I need remote access, I just log into NPM and I have certain URL's created for Plex, or Sonarr, Radarr etc. No issues so far.

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                                      • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                        I assume #2 is just to keep containers/stacks able to talk to each other without piercing the firewall for ports that aren't to be exposed to the outside? It wouldn't prevent anything if one of the containers on that host were compromised, afaik.

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                                        #43

                                        It's mostly to allow the reverse proxy on localhost to connect to the container/service, while blocking all other hosts/IPs.

                                        This is especially important when using docker as it messes with iptables and can circumvent firewall like e.g. ufw.

                                        You're right that it doesn't increase security on case of a compromised container. It's just about outside connections.

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                                          This is a valid solution but honestly how is using VPS not depending on third party?

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                                          #44

                                          It is, but you are free to switch at any time provider, there is no technological lock in like with cloudflare or tailscale (i know there is a free self hostable version, not talking about that).

                                          So just rent a new one and switch your wireguard there.

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