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Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

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  • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

    POLICE! POLICE! PLEASE HELP!

    I SAW A HOMELESS PERSON!!! THEY WERE ASKING FOR MONEY

    PLEASE REMOVE THESE EYESORES

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    This is why I turn off Google spam filtering. My attention is worth nothing so everyone who can message me should be able to.

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      This is why I turn off Google spam filtering. My attention is worth nothing so everyone who can message me should be able to.

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      Imagine being so dead inside that automated emails and human beings occupy the same part of your mind

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      • G [email protected]

        That's why I think the history of the U.S. phone system is so important. AT&T had to be dragged into interoperability by government regulation nearly every step of the way, but ended up needing to invent and publish the technical standards that made federation/interoperability possible, after government agencies started mandating them. The technical infeasibility of opening up a proprietary network has been overcome before, with much more complexity at the lower OSI layers, including defining new open standards regarding the physical layer of actual copper lines and switches.

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        Yup. At least a decade ago I used to explain how important interoperability was to legislate for, and used this as the main example of why. Networks are better for everyone when there is no lock in, and the waste of competition for eyeballs could be avoided. It's sad that most people truly don't understand this.

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        • P [email protected]

          Fair 'nuff. I hadn't really considered an alt account.

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          It's not really an "alt" account, I just don't think of user accounts as an extension of my identity, and change very regularly.

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          • nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.comN [email protected]

            Mutual aid is not giving random internet assholes money because they begged for it. I'm not saying they should be banned from doing so, but calling it mutual aid is 100% a scam. Mutual aid is given freely, within a pre-established network.

            Hosting a friend on your couch for a week cause they're in between apartments is mutual aid. Feeding your friends without expecting anything in return is mutual aid. Enabling e-begging is not mutual aid.

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            I guess in this case it's OP that labeled it as mutual aid rather than the requester.

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            • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

              Imagine being so dead inside that automated emails and human beings occupy the same part of your mind

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              Imagine being so naive that you think that's a real person.

              But if we're not being snarky for a moment... It's trivially easy to create a bot to do exactly what this person is doing. Spam others with begging for money and a bunch of sob stories.

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              • clot27@lemm.eeC [email protected]

                Yeah, the other day I saw a lot of posts like
                "I am from palestine, my home is destroyed please donate to help"...
                Spam is probably the significant problem on fedi

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                Funnily enough, I haven't seen many instances delicated to just spam, like there was conerns about. Its mostly from .world or mastodon.social

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                • J [email protected]

                  One problem with reporting private messages on Lermy is, as an admin i don't see who sent the message. I only see who reported it. And i don't have any actlon available, other than marking the report as handled.

                  with reported posts, i can ban the poster. With reported messages i'd have to ask the reporter who it was, trust their answer, search for the account manually and then i could ban. Not really efficient or fast if there ever was a spam wave.

                  of course sparmers could then just register a new account on a open instance and i might need to defederates which would lead to a fractured landscape of spammy open instances and likely inactive private instances.

                  there's also not even rudimantary spam filtering in lemmy.

                  The main saving grace is that Lemmy is too small to attract a ton of spam yet.

                  maybe some of the above is just due my pick of clients (jerboa and the web interface), and there's better tools? If so, i'd love to hear. But as things stand right now, there's a lot to be desired

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                  What in the honest fsck was the reasoning behind that?

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                  • youronlyone@app.wafrn.netY [email protected]

                    @fediverse @atomicpoet Yep! Majority of them are questionable, even those who claim they were "manually" verified by some supposedly "well-known" person. Even in the ATmosphere network, it's the same.

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                    Like tumblr, "you don't understand! 90-ghost says i'm real!!"

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                    • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                      In the long run, whitelisting may become the norm for federation instead of blacklisting.

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                      And then we're back to email.

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                        It's not really an "alt" account, I just don't think of user accounts as an extension of my identity, and change very regularly.

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                        Is it an alternative account you use for differing purposes than other accounts?

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                          Is it an alternative account you use for differing purposes than other accounts?

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                          This is the only account I've used since I created this account, and I don't presently have any intention of using any of my other accounts again at any time.

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