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    I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).

    I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

    I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.

    Thanks in advance.

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    I always recommend this for people looking for a laptop: https://old.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/

    Just check this out daily until you find something that fits your needs and budget.

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      I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).

      I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

      I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.

      Thanks in advance.

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      I highly recommend using Manjaro Linux.

      It's great for practical usage by practical people.

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        I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).

        I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

        I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.

        Thanks in advance.

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        I have Bazzite on a gaming laptop from 2015, and it's been great.

        For something non-atomic, Nobara or PikaOS might be good choices.

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          I highly recommend using Manjaro Linux.

          It's great for practical usage by practical people.

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          is manjaro seriously that much easier than stock arch installed via archinstall?

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            is manjaro seriously that much easier than stock arch installed via archinstall?

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            No, but if you want an easy arch install EndeavourOS is much more reputable.

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              Since you only mentioned 25% gaming, I'd recommend against a gaming-centric distro like Bazzite. Instead, use a generalist desktop distro.

              Since you mentioned that you're rather new-ish, I'd recommend against Arch-based distros like CachyOS. Instead, check out e.g. Fedora, Mint, OpenSuSE. (Probably in that order of priority)

              These aren't hard recommendations, so you can do whatever and probably be fine either way, but it still doesn't fit that well.

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              I’ve been all over the gamut of distros, arch based, Ubuntu based, you name it, and Fedora is it. It’s more bleeding edge than Ubuntu based distributions like Mint and Pop_OS, but not as high maintenance as Arch based distributions. When a Linux noob starts getting Pacman notifications about unmerged pacnew files, they’re going to get turned off pretty quick.

              Fedora is rock solid, clean, smooth, and generally free of issues for me for about two years now.

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                Since you only mentioned 25% gaming, I'd recommend against a gaming-centric distro like Bazzite. Instead, use a generalist desktop distro.

                Since you mentioned that you're rather new-ish, I'd recommend against Arch-based distros like CachyOS. Instead, check out e.g. Fedora, Mint, OpenSuSE. (Probably in that order of priority)

                These aren't hard recommendations, so you can do whatever and probably be fine either way, but it still doesn't fit that well.

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                There’s nothing especially gaming-focused with bazzite that would interfere with general PC usage.

                The only thing is that there’s not a lot of distro-specific guidance out there, and the immutable concept is a bit new and unusual.

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                  Fedora is way different now, and has basically taken the old thrown Ubuntu used to carry as the default to try.

                  Ubuntu's reputation has been tarnished due to forcing Snap packages on users, sneaking Amazon-based software into default installs, and showing ads. I'd steer clear.

                  Arch is still Arch.

                  Ignore anyone who says anything about a "gaming" distro. There is literally no performance difference.

                  CachyOS is maybe the one distro that could claim performance improvements over the others, but like in the ~10% target area, nothing super drastic.

                  Since you're familiar with old school distros already, steer clear of immutable until you find a need for that complication in your life.

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                  Ignore anyone who says anything about a "gaming" distro. There is literally no performance difference.

                  I’ve never heard of anyone suggest a gaming-focused distro for performance reasons.

                  It’s always for compatibility and shit-just-works reasons. And that is wildly different between distros.

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                    There’s nothing especially gaming-focused with bazzite that would interfere with general PC usage.

                    The only thing is that there’s not a lot of distro-specific guidance out there, and the immutable concept is a bit new and unusual.

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                    The only thing is that there’s not a lot of distro-specific guidance out there

                    I'm genuinely curious to hear what's missing here.

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                      Ignore anyone who says anything about a "gaming" distro. There is literally no performance difference.

                      I’ve never heard of anyone suggest a gaming-focused distro for performance reasons.

                      It’s always for compatibility and shit-just-works reasons. And that is wildly different between distros.

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                      That was a secondary point to just ignoring the "gaming" distros, but this thread alone has a bunch of people pushing Bazzite because someone simply said the word "gaming", and not recognize the majority of what OP said he would be doing is not gaming.

                      Immutable distros are a PITA for coders for a number of different reasons, so should not be recommended simply because of that. They have no benefits to workflow, only extra overhead to the other work OP is asking about,.who even said they are largely unfamiliar with anything except older releases. Suggesting they jump right into the fire with an immutable distro is bad advice.

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                      • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                        is manjaro seriously that much easier than stock arch installed via archinstall?

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                        I haven't used Arch Linux in years so I haven't tried out their installer.

                        Manjaro doesn't require using the command line at all to install, so if Arch Linux can match that then it's probably at least as good.

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                          No, but if you want an easy arch install EndeavourOS is much more reputable.

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                          Reputable meaning you'll get brownie points from "people" on the internet who can't make decisions for themselves and don't want you to, either.

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                            I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).

                            I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

                            I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.

                            Thanks in advance.

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                            Fedora seems favourite as you've used it. There's a new version due toward the end of March so you may want to hang on, to avoid legacy stuff being upgraded. Maybe they'll remove the x11 drivers.

                            There's also the inst.sdboot install flag to avoid the legacy grub install.

                            I don't find the install very easy to understand, compared to things like Debian but it's worth the fiddle.

                            ArchLinux is the other alternative.

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                              Fedora seems favourite as you've used it. There's a new version due toward the end of March so you may want to hang on, to avoid legacy stuff being upgraded. Maybe they'll remove the x11 drivers.

                              There's also the inst.sdboot install flag to avoid the legacy grub install.

                              I don't find the install very easy to understand, compared to things like Debian but it's worth the fiddle.

                              ArchLinux is the other alternative.

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                              I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

                              ArchLinux is the other alternative.

                              Never change internet. Never change.

                              OP, don't go with the hype, don't go arch Linux as your first distro, you can change later to it when you get more comfortable.

                              PS: I don't think that matters but just in case, I am use arch for at least 12 years already as my only OS (except work computer) and I find it wild that sp many people recommends arch Linux for beginners. I can only guess how many people get burn and give up on Linux because of it.

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                                I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).

                                I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

                                I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.

                                Thanks in advance.

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                                I’m using stock fedora gnome on my surface pro 3 from 2014/5? and it works very well.

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                                  Since you only mentioned 25% gaming, I'd recommend against a gaming-centric distro like Bazzite. Instead, use a generalist desktop distro.

                                  Since you mentioned that you're rather new-ish, I'd recommend against Arch-based distros like CachyOS. Instead, check out e.g. Fedora, Mint, OpenSuSE. (Probably in that order of priority)

                                  These aren't hard recommendations, so you can do whatever and probably be fine either way, but it still doesn't fit that well.

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                                  Exactly. I'm being downvoted for saying the same thing 🤣

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                                    I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).

                                    I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.

                                    I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.

                                    Thanks in advance.

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                                    Personally I'd recommend Linux Mint, as your likely to have a very positive experience with it.

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                                      That was a secondary point to just ignoring the "gaming" distros, but this thread alone has a bunch of people pushing Bazzite because someone simply said the word "gaming", and not recognize the majority of what OP said he would be doing is not gaming.

                                      Immutable distros are a PITA for coders for a number of different reasons, so should not be recommended simply because of that. They have no benefits to workflow, only extra overhead to the other work OP is asking about,.who even said they are largely unfamiliar with anything except older releases. Suggesting they jump right into the fire with an immutable distro is bad advice.

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                                      Legitimately if you're a programmer and you think using a container is a pain in the ass, you should stop programming.

                                      Source: 20 plus years software engineer, if I didn't have containers I would go ahead and hurry along my retirement.

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                                        The only thing is that there’s not a lot of distro-specific guidance out there

                                        I'm genuinely curious to hear what's missing here.

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                                        Our documentation guy cooked so hard he got burnt out, please read them they're excellent.

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                                          Legitimately if you're a programmer and you think using a container is a pain in the ass, you should stop programming.

                                          Source: 20 plus years software engineer, if I didn't have containers I would go ahead and hurry along my retirement.

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                                          Using a container isn't the issue. I'm an upstream developer on containerd and I just don't want to have to think about it. It's a needless hurdle. Containers have their place, and it's not for the desktop and doing desktop things.

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