Pangolin at Work #1
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i'm not imposing anything, i think AI are is shite on many levels and i'm vocal about it. die mad about it
Funny, you seem to be the one who's mad. I'm just bemused. Also a little annoyed on OP's behalf that his first comic got derailed into this nonsense discussion.
i'm not imposing anything
Says the person with explicit instructions to others on how to approach their own creativity.
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it doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to be drawn, it can be 3 pictures smushed together that's okay, what it does have to be, in my opinion, is made by a person. Not a glorified plagarism water boiler
Good for you, you're free to do that when you start making your own comics. Now explain why you think everybody else should share your same value set?
i am an artist, i actually create things regularly, on various levels of effort.
because plagiarism is bad. and wasting water is also bad. as it is today AI is not ethical in the slightest.
read about it before you decide to make a clown out of yourself
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Funny, you seem to be the one who's mad. I'm just bemused. Also a little annoyed on OP's behalf that his first comic got derailed into this nonsense discussion.
i'm not imposing anything
Says the person with explicit instructions to others on how to approach their own creativity.
jesus, you're deeply annoying
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i am an artist, i actually create things regularly, on various levels of effort.
because plagiarism is bad. and wasting water is also bad. as it is today AI is not ethical in the slightest.
read about it before you decide to make a clown out of yourself
read about it before you decide to make a clown out of yourself
The arrogance is astounding. You immediately assume that anybody with a differing opinion than yours has that opinion because they are uninformed and clueless, and once they have the facts in hand they will immediately come around to your PoV.
i am an artist
I guessed. Most of you haters are either feeling your livelihood being threatened or resenting that you had to spend hundreds of hours learning to draw and insisting everybody else has to do the same.
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jesus, you're deeply annoying
Because I'm pointing out unpleasant facts? Imagine how OP feels. He made something, posted it for the first time, and the feedback he gets consists of 'You're a horrible person for not doing this the way I think you should'. You're shitting on somebody's first (and possibly only) attempt at doing something cool to push your irrelevant opinions.
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Since I can’t draw, but I still have ideas, this seemed like the best way. ADHDinos is basically like the same 3 images over and over and no one seems to mind that. Plus, I shudder at the thought of trying to vector trace all those pangolin scales. I’m glad you liked it though.
how about you just.... try? i started drawing two months ago. quit being a baby
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it's not exploring shit though, you aren't learning how to make art by having an AI generate it for you. OP is exactly where they were before they "made" it, still as unable to create art as before, not a single tiny step forward.
nobodys memes are worth the energy use required to generate this visual slop
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EDIT: It’s honestly hard to believe how intense and personal some of the hostility in this thread is. I understand objecting to something when there is a valid concern, especially about ethics or consent. But this is something else entirely. It feels less like people are engaging with the actual work and more like they are reacting to the mere presence of AI in any form, regardless of context.
I don’t think LLMs are universally good or bad. I think they are very very bad at a large number of things, especially when people try to use them as shortcuts in places where care, originality, or expertise (or human understanding and subsequent empathy) are required. But they are also extremely effective in other use cases when used with skill, intention, and thought. That is the position I hold. It is nuanced. It does not dismiss the criticisms people have raised, but it also does not treat every use of the technology as automatically unethical or invalid.
What I did was not a random one-line prompt into a generator. I gave deliberate, specific instructions about pose, anatomy, style, and tone. I gave feedback. I adjusted the inputs. I guided it through a process that produced something unique and original. The result is not a collage of stolen images. It is not a copy of anything that has ever existed. That is important context, and it is constantly ignored in these arguments.
There is a real difference between raising concerns in good faith and launching personal attacks at people who use a tool in a considered way. The people jumping into these threads with moral outrage are not engaging in objective analysis. They are repeating talking points as if AI art is some kind of singular personal enemy. It often feels like they are reacting based on something they heard someone else say, rather than thinking critically about what is in front of them.
And this is happening in a community that is supposed to be supportive of neurodivergent people. That is the part I find most maddening. There is room here for discussion and for disagreement. But instead of debate, we get judgment, condescension, rabid hostility, and attempts to shame people for trying something different. That is not the kind of environment anyone should want to foster.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]i want to draw this meme and pass it off as my own just to spite OP
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Like when you have a joke in mind but can't draw it, or when you write a song but can't get the melody right, and so on.
This sounds like a great idea
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come on over to db0 and hang out with us! would be welcome here. good comic.
How…do I do that exactly
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"You aren't allowed to make a quick joke unless you spend countless hours developing your art skills".
You people are weird.
This sums it up in a nutshell. I actually plan to work on my drawing skills because now I can do it digitally and that’s now interesting. But I already had this image that I generated a while back and I thought of a good use for it and I thought it was funny and relevant. Fuck me I guess
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countless hours? find three .pngs in google, a pangolin, a chair, and a desk. put them together in something barely more advanced than paint (so opacity is preserved), and it's done. time to learn that skill: 10min max, time to use that skill after the initial learning time: 2min per image
it doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to be drawn, it can be 3 pictures smushed together that's okay, what it does have to be, in my opinion, is made by a person. Not a glorified plagarism water boiler
Your advice is to take three things directly created by other people and combine them together? That’s literally plagiarism.
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read about it before you decide to make a clown out of yourself
The arrogance is astounding. You immediately assume that anybody with a differing opinion than yours has that opinion because they are uninformed and clueless, and once they have the facts in hand they will immediately come around to your PoV.
i am an artist
I guessed. Most of you haters are either feeling your livelihood being threatened or resenting that you had to spend hundreds of hours learning to draw and insisting everybody else has to do the same.
Sounds like a republican.
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Was a nice comic! Keep it up, and remember to ignore the vocal minority of idiots. You can tell from the upvote ratio that most people DGAF that the image is AI.
That’s OK. I’m sure all those negative people were capable of drawing outstanding pangolins before they ever saw my comic. Because they absolutely definitely knew what those were, and could draw all those scales freehand from memory.
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how about you just.... try? i started drawing two months ago. quit being a baby
Quit being mean for no reason.
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Quit being mean for no reason.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]quit killing the planet for memes. i think thats a pretty damn good reason.
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Reality check: Most people DGAF. Check out the upvotes on the post to see how many people care.
Look at the ratio between our two comments.
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countless hours? find three .pngs in google, a pangolin, a chair, and a desk. put them together in something barely more advanced than paint (so opacity is preserved), and it's done. time to learn that skill: 10min max, time to use that skill after the initial learning time: 2min per image
it doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to be drawn, it can be 3 pictures smushed together that's okay, what it does have to be, in my opinion, is made by a person. Not a glorified plagarism water boiler
the shittiest handmade rage comic is better than the finest AI made meme
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Your advice is to take three things directly created by other people and combine them together? That’s literally plagiarism.
no, that's how image macros have literally always worked. youre plagiarizing the artists by using generative images that scrapes their livelihoods without their consent. also, if you took someone elses picture of a pangolin, you can credit the artist. can your AI do that?
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Your advice is to take three things directly created by other people and combine them together? That’s literally plagiarism.
the difference is that the people who make pngs of singular objects/animals mean for those images to be used by others.
AI companies force feed algorithms with everything they can find, permission from the creators or not
